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The real MVPs are websites not needing a cookie banner because they only use required cookies for which you dont need a banner.
They still have to inform you, right? Like with some banner at the edge of the page telling that they use cookies, just no need for a popup asking you to accept or decline.
No it’s only for tracking cookies. If you just have cookies for login, for example, then there’s no need to ask permission
And what tells you is how fucked the internet is since almost every single webpage asks to use tracking cookies.
There is also the problem of sites without tracking cookies having banners just to be on the safe side.
Indeed.
Just FYI - it’s mandatory to have a button like that next to the ‘Accept all’.
Every site that doesn’t do it should be reported.
To where?
Straight to internet headquarters of course.
The serious answer is to whatever your country’s internet regulation agency is (assuming your in the EU, else you’re out of luck). So for example, in France that would be the CNIL, in Germany it’s the BfDI, etc.
Just FYI Germany likes to make things more difficult, so with federation every sub-area is separated in many aspects and has own agencies for different things…
BfDI is only responsible for health and internet-provider institutions (and a few more).
Otherwise you can send it to the one where the company is located at, or always where you are located at. (they will forward it, but that can take a few months, so better to submit where it has to go).
The police
If that’s so it’s incredibly poorly enforced to the point where complaining is unlikely to have any effect at all. Most Sites have a button that leads To a secondary menu where cookie preferences can be set. Perhaps this meets the mandate you speak of? It’s a much more common setup.
Or just sites that don’t need a consent popup because they don’t sell your shit.
“well, we’re not selling it, we’re just using 247 advertising agencies to measure the general performance of our site. Nothing targeted, we’d never do that.” - totally legit companies that absolutely value user rights
/s, if that wasn’t obvious enough.
NEVER click decline all. There are loopholes built in that still grant access to “legitimate interest” cookies, which are recognized differently from “consent cookies.” If you click reject all, it still allows collection of certain personal info through cookies labeled legitimate interest. Which is entirely up to advertisers to categorize.
As annoying as it is, always open up options and manually uncheck cookies.
Seriously? Why does everything just have to be awful all the time now?
People moved away from “I want to make a living” to “I need every ounce of money I can get”
capitalism removed the “I want to make a living” option and forced everyone into “I need every ounce of money I can get just to survive”
$$$
With TCF 2.2 “legitimate interest” is no longer allowed (but that’s probably only for IAB members). At our company we already had a rule where we disabled all “legitimate interests” from our vendors, so I assume there are other companies that do the same.
The real MVPs are website not having cookies altogether
I highly recommend the Firefox extension “I still don’t care about cookies” as a great successor to the original
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/istilldontcareaboutcookies/
by the way, I’ve always been subconsciously curious but never asked anybody, what happens when we click “ok yes I accept cookies?” And What happens if we click " not ok, I don’t accept cookies?"
Depends on the implementation. If you decline, it’s either 1) no cookies are written at all and you get promoted again the next time you visit that site or 2) a single cookie is written only remembering that you declined the prompt.
Does it work on Vivaldi?
I think ghostery has an auto decline all that works on most websites.
My favorite banner is from geizhals.de that only says “We recognize you set “Do not track” and we respect that.”
Edit: autocorrect corrected
Yeah, my university’s intranet (and I believe also their homepage, but I’m not sure) has the same
Too bad the “do not track” message makes you easier to track on every other website
In Firefox 120+ about:config -> cookiebanners.service.mode 2 (from 0)
No addons required.
Does this accept them?
This seems to be the config:
cookiebanners.service.mode = 1 (reject all) or 2 (reject all or fall back to accept all).
So on 2 it would reject all, and if not possible, accept all.
So it’s about balance annoyance and privacy again.
First i was a bit confused, but i quickly found a site i use regular which needs you to accept the cookies or buy premium.
There’s where stuff like Cookie Autodelete comes into play, they can have their cookie, but it will be thrown away the second their site is closed.
So you can use mode 2 for less annoyance and still throw them in the garbage
Thanks for that! Much clearer now
Istilldontcareaboutcookies + cookieautodelete - you da real mvp
I’ve had that running for a while now, sadly some sites give you the option “accept all cookies” or “deny all by getting a monthly subscription” which if using this extension will automatically redirect you.
Aside from that little downside it has made browsing so much better.
You can also enable the easy list for cookies in uBlock Origin. It misses some but for the most part it works.
✅ Delete cookies and site data when Firefox is closed
How do you delete data that’s already transferred to their servers while you visit the page? You don’t need a cookie to uniquely identify a user.
What’s there to transfer if they aren’t to be found at all?
Do they only transfer when you leave the site?
Every browser can do that. Some can delete cookies when closing a tab or even when leaving a domain for another.
I think they will break laws (in countries with basic respect for human right) if they don’t have that option.
Wait, fr? What countries are those?
EU Cookie Directive applies to all website owners within the EU aswell as Websites which target EU users.
It gives clear rules for different categories of cookies like how you need to display them and for which you actually need consent to be allowed to use them.
It also sets rules for how easy certain actions have to be and granularity.
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You probably should, according to https://gdpr.eu/cookies/ (not official eu resource) under cookie compliance section: “Make it as easy for users to withdraw their consent as it was for them to give their consent in the first place.”
I found two website with instructions to file a complaint: https://www.enzuzo.com/blog/how-to-file-a-gdpr-complaint and https://noyb.eu/en/exercise-your-rights-article-77-complain-your-dpa . both advising you to contact you DPA.
Any country in the EU as it’s part of GDPR, for example.
Oh cool, thanks!
Some US news websites still geoblock European visitors rather than fix their site to not track the ever loving fuck out of visitors who say no. So imagine what they’re doing to their domestic visitors.
I liked it when some news sites did plain text only if you didn’t accept cookies. So no cookies, no ads and don’t have to deal with your crappy css? Why would I ever accept that? It was wonderful.
But does it really decline all, or are you agreeing to their “legitimate interest” of stealing your data?
Data collection is theft, change my mind.
I agree.
Unless I click “Accept All”.
Man the worst I saw was a petrol station, when you walked in up to the tills there was this little sign on a floppy plastic thing that said they had face recognition running and a QR code to scan. The text of the sign mentioned “legitimate interests” but in no way directed users to scan the code and go to the website to object their consent.
It’s such bullshit. These companies collect up the data we produce and sell it for pure profit, without offering anything in return. The data brokerage industry is worth multiple trillions of $ per year, with only $8bn people in the world it stands to reason that the average user’s data is worth $1,000 per year, but they just pick that out of our pockets and use it against us.
Sounds super shady. I’d venture that that would be illegal in Europe.
Thankfully the UK isn’t in any Europe anymore! Just say you’re legitimately interested and you can steal user data without any sort of thing!
See our legitimate partners (1724)…
I don’t want my data sent to 1724 partners just because i am curious to see what that click bait of a title really meant
I think the moral of the story is don’t fall for clickbait