• n2burns@lemmy.ca
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      11 months ago

      AFAIK, the main issue wasn’t where they’re used but where they’re stored. While scooters riding on sidewalks is an issue, the bigger issue is them cluttering the sidewalk and becoming an impedance to pedestrians, especially those with disabilities.

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        11 months ago

        Interesting. I’ve seen this where I live, rental scooters just littering the sidewalk.

        I wonder, whether personally-owned scooters will become more prevalent if rentals aren’t available.

        I guess personally-owned scooters are going to be parked more responsibly rather than just left wherever.

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          11 months ago

          I see a lot of people where I live riding around on scooters but haven’t seen the rental ones here like in bigger cities so I guess personally owned do become more popular if you can’t rent

    • ChrisLicht@lemm.ee
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      11 months ago

      The performance envelopes of vehicles sharing bike lanes these days are wildly different. I dread the day that RTO is complete, and rush-hour bike lanes are shared by e-bikes, e-unicycles, one-wheels, push scooters, e-standup-scooters, smaller sit-scooters, monkey bikes, e-skateboards, skateboards, and whatever else I’m missing.

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        11 months ago

        I don’t see a problem with that. If your issue is crowding, maybe just trade more car lanes for bike lanes.

        Ideally mass transit like trains or buses would be a first choice, but individual electric transport is still great for the last mile(s).

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          11 months ago

          It raises the likelihood of accidents, as these vehicles have varying acceleration and braking curves, not to mention stances and senses of what’s behind them.

          That said, I don’t think there is anything to be done about it in the near to mid term; just interesting to force so many different vehicle profiles into a relatively small space.

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            11 months ago

            I mean, people should already be operating them safely enough to avoid a collision regardless of mode of transportation.

            Although they’re not strictly forced into a small space. In most places, bicycles (and probably other vehicles) are entitled to take the whole lane, even if it’s not a designated bike lane.

            Really, it all boils down to just operating your vehicle safely, though as we’ve seen even with cars, that doesn’t happen as much as it should. But maybe if people aren’t as protected like in their SUVs, they’d be more careful.

            I’d also like to see better traffic enforcement for unsafe operation, because especially post-COVID, people have gone a little nuts and policing is way down. My city’s police department literally said at a meeting that they’re prioritizing education over ticketing, which is one of the most stupid things I’ve ever heard, especially since I haven’t seen any educational outreach from them, and I hardly see anyone being pulled over.

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        11 months ago

        so instead of that one rule, you think it’s better to have a different rule?

      • fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de
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        11 months ago

        Well… yes ?

        I mean there will always be people that break the rules but in my experience once something becomes a law, like smoking in certain areas or whatever, people tend to follow the rules.

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          11 months ago

          The rule already exists, living in the suburbs and working in Paris, I can tell you that they ended up forbidding them because a lot of people weren’t using them on the road.