• redcalcium@lemmy.institute
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    “Let’s give our new command line app the same name as a popular linux command even though it’s not the same app and behaves differently. I’m sure our users would appreciate it when they have problem with the app and trying to search the solution later.”

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      To be consistent with Powershell’s command structure, they should call it “Get-Access” or something similar…

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        Given the horrible verbosity of PS utils, I’d expect they just abandon subtlety and call it Substitute-User-Do-Operation

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          I’m pretty sure it’s just Verb-Noun, I don’t think I’ve seen the multi-hyphen o es your reference

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          > Set-Alias -Name Get-Ass -Value Get-Access
          > Get-Ass
          Get-Access : Access is denied. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x00000000 (E_ACCESSDENIED))

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      “Because we are Microsoft, the company known for giving its products perfectly reasonable and not confusing names”

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        Sentinel, Defender (not the AV, lol), Entra. I hear these daily in meetings and don’t know what the hell they are. (Not my job)

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          Sentinel is MS’s SEIM product, defender is likely people referring to their paid av offering, Entra is what they renamed AzureAD recently which is their identity management platform. Not sure why they renamed the last one azureAD was a good name for it.

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            Maybe because they were getting tired of hearing from admins frustrated that Azure AD still doesn’t have full feature parity with “normal” AD? Now it’s clearly a separate product at least.

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        I think Google’s the worst for this. Examples such as the browser Chrome, when browser chrome has been a thing for a long time. Go, a very common verb and keyword and also now a programming language. Not to be confused with their Go Links, which was a URL shortener. And then there’s all the ones they either rebrand or retire and/or replace.

        Perhaps they want confusing names because they think other search engines can’t handle the ambiguity.

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          To be honest, other programming languages aren’t named any better

          Pascal is just a common name, Rust is a common noun, Java is an island which you cannot find by searching for just its name, Python’s a snake, C# is a musical note and C is just a letter.

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      afaik they also alias common linux/gnu commands like curl… but the syntax isnt like curl at all

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        I definitely spent a frustrated 45 minutes trying to figure out why curl wasn’t working when it was supposed to be supported in PowerShell.

        then I hit tab a couple of times and noticed curl.exe was an option, that works exactly the same as I had expected with original syntax.

        they do this to a lot of things though a lot of common commands end up being an alias to a powershell command with a specific option set that doesn’t always line up

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      They’ve had a real problem with names recently. I wonder if the laid all the creative people off in that company. Miss me with this “new outlook” “new teams” “teams for work and school” just think of a new name for each app for the love of god…

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        Not a new problem. Many years ago they released a server app to download and deploy updates to a businesses computers. They called it Windows Update Service, or WUS. A bit later they changed the name to Windows Server Update Service (WSUS). The FAQ on the name change noted the old name “did not accurately reflect the value of the software”

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    Windows is not in sudoers file. This incident will be reported.

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      They are tired of right clicking Command Prompt to “Run as Administrator”. They’ve been doing it for decades, they can have one tiny piece of QoL improvement.

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    I bet you not even sudo could remove edge. edge is like the breathing lungs and thinking brain and balls of computer

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      “This action is forbidden. The incident has been reported.”

      And then MS sends goons to your house to break your legs

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        That’s an unpalatable response - instead you’re sentenced to 10 hours of Browser Reeducation classes

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      You used to be able to >winget uninstall Microsoft.Edge

      But the problem is Edge would still come back every time Windows had an update.

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        I hope the EU DMA update fixes that.

        It supposedly allows you to uninstall more stuff.

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          Let’s hope it’s not region locked, or if it is, maybe at least trivial to bypass.

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    And, knowing Windows, won’t let you do as much as a real sudo would anyway. There are so many f-ing things that even Admin is not allowed to do on a Windows box, it is simply annoying. “Oh no, you cannot remove Edge! This would threaten the stability of the universe!”

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    It is an ergonomic and familiar solution for users who want to elevate a command without having to first open a new elevated console.

    Yeah Microsoft, how exactly is it familiar for Windows users? 😜

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    Finally. Although, I bet it’s going to be one of these looongass PS OO commands, with an alias tied to it.

    Probably Escalate-RegularUserPrivelige and smack a mandatory -Confirm argument in there as well, just to be annoying.

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      Although you have to admire that PowerShell at least attempts to define a common set of verbs and vocabulary.

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      The trick to powershell is to make incredibly liberal use of tab completion to speed yourself up. Or make aliases for commands you use really often.

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        Yeah, I get that it can be a pain to type long commands out the first time, but if you’re using a terminal or an editor without tab completion in 2024 then you’ve chosen to do things the hard way.

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    This has been needed since Windows XP SP2.

    Glad to see they’ve finally started doing their backlog tickets.

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    Honestly, it’s hardly newsworthy given how sudo was a thing in windows for quite a while now. I use it pretty often, especially sudo pwsh for elevated shells.

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    I been using gsudo for quite sometime, the default way to leverage privaliges in Windows is cancer, the whole shell is tbh.