44 Democrat senators, 36 Republicans and Joe Biden all worked together to pass a law forcing a union to accept a contract it’s members had already voted on and rejected.
People who voted for Biden in the 2020 primaries did the fascists a favor. They decided they’d rather risk losing to fascists a second time than compromise with leftists. Biden did the fascists a favor when he called on congress to block the rail strike.
Fuck Joe Biden and anybody who voted for him in the 2020 primaries.
It’s great that you picked the one option where Democrats were trying to help thos railroad workers but Republicans refused. Then when Democrats have to continue the literal working infrastructure of the United States, they get the blame for it… Rather than the company owners and Republicans lmfao. Democrats literally didn’t not have enough votes on their own.
Sounds like Fox News is working to me. Because 90% of Lemmy does nothing but peddle it lol.
How about the public option with the ACA? The Democrats used their super majority to pass a Republican crafted bill that simply enshrined the shitty status quo into law, even going so far as to fine you if you didn’t participate in said system. We still pay the highest per capita amount for healthcare in the entire world. What did we really get out of that? The end of “pre-existing conditions” and the option to purchase the same expensive, bare-bones insurance coverage from someone besides your employer?
It’s great that you picked the one option where Democrats were trying to help thos railroad workers but Republicans refused.
The railroad workers didn’t need the “help” of Democrats anymore than the UAW did. They were preparing to strike and would have gotten their demands.
Democrats literally didn’t not have enough votes on their own.
THEN THEY SHOULD HAVE STAYED THE FUCK OUT OF IT.
Do not block strikes. End of story.
Sounds like Fox News is working to me. Because 90% of Lemmy does nothing but peddle it lol.
You need to pull your head out of your ass if you think there are zero people who voted for Biden in the 2020 general election and will refuse to vote for him in 2024 over this. The rail workers contract expires at the end of this year. The next president will be faced with the same choice. If Biden believes Trump to be the biggest threat we face then promising to veto any attempts to force a contract on the workers is a bargain.
Make a fucking choice. You want to save Democracy? Here you go. Here’s the offer. Reject the offer and we’ll vote 3rd party. Stop thinking you can get us to vote for Biden by any other means.
The cognitive dissonance or prop washing is tangible lol.
If you sound like a Fox News segment after typing something out, maybe rethink the reality of what you’re trying to say vs what you’re actually saying. Hell, you even agreed with what I said in ad many words lol.
Wow. Thanks for cherry picking one thing out of hundreds to show your point! That’s a solid way of arguing.
Would you like me to cherry pick an example of one which disproves you? Or would you like to examine the evidence as a whole and actually properly examine it?
Let me explain it to you since you don’t seem to understand.
OP makes a statement that all democrats and republicans act the same and are equal.
I say no, that’s not right.
Other poster says well if you look at this one example, they voted together!
I said looking at one example isn’t reflective of the whole picture. That I can just pick another example that shows they don’t vote together. You need to look at it overall instead of cherypicking facts that suit you.
Do you understand the logic there and why what you wrote makes no sense?
“It will never happen. Biden is owned by the same people as Trump. There’s only one party, the party of the Oligarchs. All of the petty shit about abortion, trans rights, gay rights, racial equality, gender equality, religion, second amendment, etcetera are all distractions to keep us all at each others throats while the rich cocksuckers figure out more insidious ways to fuck us all over.”
Sorry, here you go since you missed the comment seemingly.
“It will never happen. Biden is owned by the same people as Trump. There’s only one party, the party of the Oligarchs.”
Did you even read what OP said lol? It’s right in front of you, the first sentences. If I’m being dishonest then you are on another level of insane/lying.
Biden is owned by the same people as Trump. There’s only one party, the party of the Oligarchs.
Is not the same as
all democrats and republicans act the same and are equal
Refusing to see nuance in the difference between the sentiment of these two statements does a disservice to yourself and your cause (unless you’re on the side of the billionaires).
So here you go since you missed the distinction: they can both be (and are) corrupt, without being “the same”.
People like to point out all the ways they’re not the same and one team is better than the other. Fine. Those things can all be true, and politicians in both those parties are still corrupt.
It was only a couple presidents ago that Democrats had the House, Senate, and President. Even then they couldn’t get their own members to vote for anti-corruption legislation.
This is a fair reply, but it sounds like we’re both on the same page. Yes, both parties have their own issues but saying they’re the same isn’t correct. If you’re in a position of picking between them then clearly one side is less corrupt than the other.
44 Democrat senators, 36 Republicans and Joe Biden all worked together to pass a law forcing a union to accept a contract it’s members had already voted on and rejected.
Fuck all of them.
This doesn’t mean there’s no difference between Biden and Trump. Don’t do the fascists favors.
People who voted for Biden in the 2020 primaries did the fascists a favor. They decided they’d rather risk losing to fascists a second time than compromise with leftists. Biden did the fascists a favor when he called on congress to block the rail strike.
Fuck Joe Biden and anybody who voted for him in the 2020 primaries.
It’s great that you picked the one option where Democrats were trying to help thos railroad workers but Republicans refused. Then when Democrats have to continue the literal working infrastructure of the United States, they get the blame for it… Rather than the company owners and Republicans lmfao. Democrats literally didn’t not have enough votes on their own.
Sounds like Fox News is working to me. Because 90% of Lemmy does nothing but peddle it lol.
How about the public option with the ACA? The Democrats used their super majority to pass a Republican crafted bill that simply enshrined the shitty status quo into law, even going so far as to fine you if you didn’t participate in said system. We still pay the highest per capita amount for healthcare in the entire world. What did we really get out of that? The end of “pre-existing conditions” and the option to purchase the same expensive, bare-bones insurance coverage from someone besides your employer?
The railroad workers didn’t need the “help” of Democrats anymore than the UAW did. They were preparing to strike and would have gotten their demands.
THEN THEY SHOULD HAVE STAYED THE FUCK OUT OF IT.
Do not block strikes. End of story.
You need to pull your head out of your ass if you think there are zero people who voted for Biden in the 2020 general election and will refuse to vote for him in 2024 over this. The rail workers contract expires at the end of this year. The next president will be faced with the same choice. If Biden believes Trump to be the biggest threat we face then promising to veto any attempts to force a contract on the workers is a bargain.
Make a fucking choice. You want to save Democracy? Here you go. Here’s the offer. Reject the offer and we’ll vote 3rd party. Stop thinking you can get us to vote for Biden by any other means.
The cognitive dissonance or prop washing is tangible lol.
If you sound like a Fox News segment after typing something out, maybe rethink the reality of what you’re trying to say vs what you’re actually saying. Hell, you even agreed with what I said in ad many words lol.
Find me a Fox News article stating the rail strike should not have been blocked. I’ll wait.
EDIT: Five hours later and no article. Odd. It’s almost like people defending blocking the rail strike sound like Fox News watchers. Interesting.
Wow. Thanks for cherry picking one thing out of hundreds to show your point! That’s a solid way of arguing.
Would you like me to cherry pick an example of one which disproves you? Or would you like to examine the evidence as a whole and actually properly examine it?
Disproves which part of what he wrote?
Or disproves the strawman you set up yourself?
Let me explain it to you since you don’t seem to understand.
OP makes a statement that all democrats and republicans act the same and are equal.
I say no, that’s not right.
Other poster says well if you look at this one example, they voted together!
I said looking at one example isn’t reflective of the whole picture. That I can just pick another example that shows they don’t vote together. You need to look at it overall instead of cherypicking facts that suit you.
Do you understand the logic there and why what you wrote makes no sense?
I can make it simpler perhaps if you need it.
>OP makes a statement that all democrats and republicans act the same and are equal.
that is not what they said
“It will never happen. Biden is owned by the same people as Trump. There’s only one party, the party of the Oligarchs. All of the petty shit about abortion, trans rights, gay rights, racial equality, gender equality, religion, second amendment, etcetera are all distractions to keep us all at each others throats while the rich cocksuckers figure out more insidious ways to fuck us all over.”
?
Did you even read what OP said lol?
yes
Guess not then. Oh well, if you don’t have an argument I’ll just block and move on.
please, do
Wrong. OP never wrote that - YOU made that statement as a strawman. You should try to be a more honest person.
Sorry, here you go since you missed the comment seemingly.
“It will never happen. Biden is owned by the same people as Trump. There’s only one party, the party of the Oligarchs.”
Did you even read what OP said lol? It’s right in front of you, the first sentences. If I’m being dishonest then you are on another level of insane/lying.
Is not the same as
Refusing to see nuance in the difference between the sentiment of these two statements does a disservice to yourself and your cause (unless you’re on the side of the billionaires).
So here you go since you missed the distinction: they can both be (and are) corrupt, without being “the same”.
People like to point out all the ways they’re not the same and one team is better than the other. Fine. Those things can all be true, and politicians in both those parties are still corrupt.
It was only a couple presidents ago that Democrats had the House, Senate, and President. Even then they couldn’t get their own members to vote for anti-corruption legislation.
Great!
This is a fair reply, but it sounds like we’re both on the same page. Yes, both parties have their own issues but saying they’re the same isn’t correct. If you’re in a position of picking between them then clearly one side is less corrupt than the other.