NoLeftLeftWhereILive [none/use name, she/her]

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Cake day: August 21st, 2023

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  • It’s very different then. Here this is a mandatory sport in school, but everyone has to buy their own equipment. Often kids from poor or for example migrant families end up having to sit out the ski lessons and also get poorer grades/negative feedback because of it. I was able to buy my kid one set of new skiis during their school years, but even those broke our bank. Kids skiis are cheaper, but you also need the sticks, shoes and proper clothing. Kids need several pairs over the years as they grow up so other times my kid just never got to take part.

    We are made to compete in skiing as well from grade 1 onwards latest, it can be very humiliating for those who never learn it well or those many who never like it. I personally did like it, but my parents never were able to get good skis for me so it was always miserable. I did ski in the woods by myself though, that was nice. It was a good way to get to places in winter growing up, I did love skiing on sea ice.

    Interestingly skiing was just a mode of transport in this country in the past, just like biking, and everyone had these equipment or made them. Nowadays it has become more of a banal nationalism and a symbol of “national spirit” and “fitness” or whatever that is seen as good and moral. It fits really well into the neoliberal wordview because people can just say “everyone is free to do it”, ignoring the fact that the cheapest and crappiest skis for adults are hundreds of euros. If you are for example tall or fat, you can’t buy those or you will hate skiing or end up hurt.

    It is actually pretty depressing how something that historically was a mode of transport for the majority has been turned into something very exclusive and expensive by capitalism. I would argue this is happening to biking too, new bikes are well out of reach for someone like me now, but at least there is a better second hand market.

    I tried to look for old school forest skiis to get past this and to be able to ski outside the raging bougies in the maintained lanes, but turns out those are even more pricey as the bougies have also discovered nature now as a posing stage.

    Wish we had kept all the old skis our grandparents still had when I was young, the wood plank style army skis and such from the start of the last century. Those would still work in cross country terrain and could be maintained forever unlike the high tech carbon fibre stuff we are sold, but you can’t find them anywhere anymore.




  • I don’t know where you are, but where I live this has never been the sort of second hand stuff that is even remotely accessible to poor people.

    I have been able to alpine ski about twice in my life. With rented equipment. Plenty of places around me for doing it, the lift tickets alone make it way too expensive.

    And when it comes to cross country, which is a kind of national sport where I live, we all did do that as kids. But, it isn’t cheap. Plenty of kids can’t afford the equipment and those who have the good stuff obviously enjoy it more and don’t get laughed at.

    During covid year one me and my partner thought about doing it again as it’s outdoors, but soon found out there is no way poor folks buy even cross country adult skiis that are actually usable. Used isn’t all that cheap either.

    There are endless tax payer money maintained ski routes in this country during winter that take over walking routes, hiking routes etc. You are not allowed to do anything there but ski during the ski season. The people who do it are all upper middle class or otherwise in a position where they can afford the equipment. The poors don’t even get to use the area for walking during this time.


  • Fun fact, the OG big covid wave in my country was almost single handedly brought in by bougie skiiers partying in Austria, in the middle of a pandemic.

    They just had to go skii, in a pandemic.

    The genetic variant testing has revealed that not a single actual wave or mass spread ever happened here from outside the circles of bougie whiteness, no matter how hard they tried to make headlines of the “Chinese tourist” with covid.

    And the fact that energy is spent in putting fake snow on the ground for these people so they can do their sport in climate change destroyed mountains is also a thing. They fly to these places to ski on artificial snow…

    Not to mention how this “sport” and the tourism done in Lapland around it exploits and robs Sami peoples lands.




  • Good answer. Personally have fully checked out from electroralism after the Left Alliance went pro-Nato and I started to more clearly see that their understanding of leftism is mostly whining about social justice issues, but then backing capitalism and nationalism all the way to the bank. It’s a very neoliberal left. There is no real left option here.

    And the presidential election being mostly a ceremonial little spectacle where people can vote their way into feeling better while the right wing government is pushing for the heaviest austerity and cuts to basic workers rights makes it all feel pretty pointless.

    Can’t lie though, seeing any of these bourge ghouls speaking for the country will still feel bad, but I am not sure if it really matters which one of these it is. Stubb is an obnoxious neoliberal, but so is Haavisto. It will suck either way.



  • The exposure is next level. Schools, daycares, healthcare settings too, clearly jobs where there are a lot of women as well. Pretty sure the response would look different if more tech bros were dying or getting longcovid from this. Sadly we might be getting there though.

    And public health messaging has truly been motivated by the capitalists on this.

    We currently have the tail-end covid and we had an electrician come over yesterday and my partner told him that we are likely still not good to be around. The guy replied with “Yes, but I am vaccinated 4 times”. My partner replied with “I am 5 times and still have been sick for almost two weeks now, would you like a mask?”. He was happy to take the mask.

    It was still risky for him, but they are sent to these apartments by the landlords who employ them and nobody cares to protect the workers.

    Biggest issue is that these workers clearly trust public health enough that they really think they are protected now. What will this do to that trust, why is anyone surprised that anti-vax sentiments are on the rise? It’s a symptom of this.


  • Covid is a class issue.

    I just read a paper on where covid came from in my homecountry Finland. The entire spread of it was from tourist spots in three other European countries where the upper classes like to vacation and did during the first years. One ski resort in Austria seeded one wave alone here basically. Not a single case that spread further ever arrived here from Wuhan for example, the spreading was all done by the high income brackets from their vacationing.

    Now the brunt of it is beared by the service workers, the labor aristroes are happily cushioned in their remote work and it is still them who keep bringing new variants in, those who say “I need to travel for mental health” or whatever.

    Covid is a class consciousness issue on a very real level, it’s the working class that dies from it.