But God is the one doing the justice, right? Why does he have to have a blood offering? Sending his son to die when he could merely decide to forgive without a blood offering feels weird. The one who would punish us if it didn’t happen would be god himself. He could simply choose not to carry out that punishment rather than going through the act of having his son literally die an excruciating death.
If he forgave everyone for no reason, then there’s no justice and sin goes unpunished.
If someone damages your car and you forgave them for it, would that mean there’s no payment? No, you’d pay for it yourself. So God paid for the price of our sin Himself.
I don’t see how you can believe God is omnipotent while also being utterly incapable of choosing to not punish people without killing his son. All the metaphors you make break down because it’s all god in control. God chose what is and is not a sin. God is the one punishing for breaking those rules. But suddenly God is incapable of choosing to not punish people without literally murdering his son? And God sends people to hell for the “sin” of not “accepting” this “forgiveness” when he could’ve just chosen not to punish us? God subjects people to an infinite amount of suffering for a finite amount of wrongdoing? Possibly even the only wrongdoing of not accepting him if you otherwise followed everything? Even if they literally never even heard of God?
God paid the price Himself. How’s this psychopathic? How could a perfect being exist in a perfect realm with people running about committing atrocities?
It’s awfully dramatic to kill yourself and say that accepting you did it means people get forgiveness from your own wrath instead of simply choosing to not punish people if they accept you. How is it not gas lighting? “The only way for me to forgive you for the wickedness of original sin is for me to kill myself and for you to accept that. No, I can’t just choose to not send people to hell if they believe in me, I have to also kill myself.” How can that not be viewed as guilt tripping people?
The entire concept of original sin is also horrible because Adam and Eve literally did not know the difference between right and wrong when they sinned. They did not know what they were doing was wrong. They did not know the difference between good and evil until they ate the fruit. So God punishes all of humanity for all eternity just because two people made an honest mistake?
God subjects people to an infinite amount of suffering in hell if they die as a baby because two people did something wrong when they literally didn’t didn’t even know right from wrong.
The idea of calling any of this justice is beyond me.
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Why did God have to send his son to die for you? Why can’t he just decide not to punish people without requiring a blood offering?
Because then there’s no justice for sin. God is perfectly just, and forgiving people for no reason isn’t justice
But God is the one doing the justice, right? Why does he have to have a blood offering? Sending his son to die when he could merely decide to forgive without a blood offering feels weird. The one who would punish us if it didn’t happen would be god himself. He could simply choose not to carry out that punishment rather than going through the act of having his son literally die an excruciating death.
If he forgave everyone for no reason, then there’s no justice and sin goes unpunished.
If someone damages your car and you forgave them for it, would that mean there’s no payment? No, you’d pay for it yourself. So God paid for the price of our sin Himself.
If someone damages my car and I want to forgive them I don’t have to spill blood to do it. I could simply choose to not call the cops or whatever.
You’d still have to pay for the damage though, which is the cost of your car being damaged. Meanwhile, the cost of our sin is death.
I don’t see how you can believe God is omnipotent while also being utterly incapable of choosing to not punish people without killing his son. All the metaphors you make break down because it’s all god in control. God chose what is and is not a sin. God is the one punishing for breaking those rules. But suddenly God is incapable of choosing to not punish people without literally murdering his son? And God sends people to hell for the “sin” of not “accepting” this “forgiveness” when he could’ve just chosen not to punish us? God subjects people to an infinite amount of suffering for a finite amount of wrongdoing? Possibly even the only wrongdoing of not accepting him if you otherwise followed everything? Even if they literally never even heard of God?
If God is real then he’s psychopathic.
God paid the price Himself. How’s this psychopathic? How could a perfect being exist in a perfect realm with people running about committing atrocities?
It’s awfully dramatic to kill yourself and say that accepting you did it means people get forgiveness from your own wrath instead of simply choosing to not punish people if they accept you. How is it not gas lighting? “The only way for me to forgive you for the wickedness of original sin is for me to kill myself and for you to accept that. No, I can’t just choose to not send people to hell if they believe in me, I have to also kill myself.” How can that not be viewed as guilt tripping people?
The entire concept of original sin is also horrible because Adam and Eve literally did not know the difference between right and wrong when they sinned. They did not know what they were doing was wrong. They did not know the difference between good and evil until they ate the fruit. So God punishes all of humanity for all eternity just because two people made an honest mistake?
God subjects people to an infinite amount of suffering in hell if they die as a baby because two people did something wrong when they literally didn’t didn’t even know right from wrong.
The idea of calling any of this justice is beyond me.