The OnePlus Watch 2 has 2 chips, and basically runs a lightweight OS while keeping the hungry one in very very low power, and only powering it up when necessary.

I was thinking that maybe such idea could be applied on a Linux phone that could run all your banking apps without Waydroid’s “you-must-be-a-hacker” issues, literally by having a half-asleep Android running on another chip, which you can wake up whenever to do your “non-hacker” things, while at the same time you can run the rest of your system (calls, messaging, calculator, calendar, browser…) on your lightweight, private and personalized Linux mobile OS.

I think I would pay big bucks for something like this, and it could serve as a transition device for ditching Android in the future when Tux finally governs over the world.

What do you guys think?

  • @onlinepersonaEnglish
    30•21 days ago

    That already exists with waydroid. It’s what people use on the Librem 5 and PinePhone to run linux apps. It would save much more battery if it were at OS level, but I assume that would be akin to merging Android and mobile linux distros and a lot more work.

    Why do you have the impression that waydroid has a “you must be a hacker” issue?

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      • @[email protected]
        20•21 days ago

        SafetyNet is deprecated and replaced by “Google Play Certification” checks. This means any custom OS may be blocked. Its pretty horrible.

          • @onlinepersonaEnglish
            -1•21 days ago

            My understanding is the Google Integrity API is not the same as Google Play Protect:

            The Play Integrity API helps you check that interactions and server requests are coming from your genuine app binary running on a genuine Android device
            […]
            Determine whether Google Play Protect is turned on and whether it has found risky or dangerous apps installed on the device

            Google Play Protect seems to function more like an antivirus

            Google Play Protect includes on-device capabilities that help keep devices and data safe. These on-device services integrate with cloud-based components that allow Google to push updates that constantly improve their functionality.

            Because Play Protect works doesn’t mean Integrity API will.

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            • RustmilianEnglish
              5•21 days ago

              You need Google Play Certification to pass Play Integrity checks.
              For Waydroid this is the only step you should need, unless you add Magisk.
              Magisk breaks other checks.

              Play Integrity :

              Free of known malware: Determine whether Google Play Protect is turned on and whether it has found risky or dangerous apps installed on the device.

      • @[email protected]English
        1•21 days ago

        I doubt it does, google would never approve that. Maybe if it would pretend to be an other, genuine device, but I’m not sure the devs want to deal with that

    • @[email protected]OP
      16•21 days ago

      If I am not mistaken, not all apps run on Waydroid, specially banking stuff will freak out because they have systems to know that you are running on true, verified hardware or not.

      • @[email protected]English
        9•21 days ago

        I’m afraid banking apps cannot be solved. They already require you to install sketchy system mods if you have just rooted your genuine phone with the original OS

        • @[email protected]OP
          2•21 days ago

          I mean, with this dualOS device it would be solved… And recognition of Linux mobile would increase, hopefully making banking apps look for other systems of “verification”.

          • @[email protected]
            6•21 days ago

            No, not that easily. Your phone could have 2 flash storages and do all the android stuff in there, with hardware TPM, A/B root, verified boot, rollback prevention, not rooted etc.

            Ironically this is not even enforced by those shitty banking apps, GrapheneOS is way more secure and will probably be blocked by some apps soon, as they are not a “google certified OS”, replacing the old SafetyNet.

          • @[email protected]English
            2•21 days ago

            I see now, you’re partly right. But I don’t think such a device would be “approved by google”, the party who decides which device configurations are “trusted”