• MrJameGumb@lemmy.world
    981·
    7 个月前

    You forgot the third car using a VPN to get all the content they’re actually paying for on all of their streaming apps

        • refalo
          3·
          7 个月前

          There are 17 states that have passed or introduced bills requiring age verification for access to porn sites: New Jersey, West Virginia, Virginia, Oregon, Minnesota, South Dakota, Arizona, Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee, South Carolina and Florida.

    • Chill Dude 69@lemmynsfw.com
      6·
      7 个月前

      I’m one of these Texas motherfuckers getting fucked with by this dumb shit. I am in the market for a cheap, effective VPN.

      I’m thinking about trying Express VPN, but I haven’t had time to do all the comparison shopping for which one is actually best. I don’t need a shitload of different devices, all at once. At most, I need to maybe cover one desktop PC and two WiFi devices. But I’d be cool with just one seat.

      Anyone got recommendations?

      • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
        5·
        7 个月前

        I’m using Private Internet Access. It was purchased by a company some people think are sketchy, but they work well in my experience and are cheap. If you really need security that you trust, maybe go somewhere else. If you just need a VPN that works and is cheap, it’s an option.

        • Chill Dude 69@lemmynsfw.com
          3·
          7 个月前

          I just heard that Express VPN was bought by a shady company, too. I wonder if it’s the same one.

          EDIT: Yep. It’s the same one. Kape technologies. They are apparently pretty evil.

      • FlihpFlorp@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        7 个月前

        I’d recommend proton vpn. They have a few other services like email and password managers but there free tier is more than adequate

      • Hexarei
        21·
        7 个月前

        My recommendation is to run your own instance of something like OpenVPN on a $5/month Digital Ocean droplet tbh

        • refalo
          4·
          7 个月前

          While a good approach, this is not really possible for a majority of non-tech people.

          • Hexarei
            2·
            7 个月前

            Sure, I recognize that there are folks who won’t be able to pull it off, but there are also loads who can - And don’t know about options like OpenVPN. Figured it was worth a mention.

    • cm0002@lemmy.world
      6·
      7 个月前

      Bout to be CO too, not just limited to red states unfortunately.

      Admittedly, it’s not just for porn, but social media in general. Either way, the same reasoning applies, I’m not giving a third party company my identity just for a social media account and I’m certainly not going to do it for porn

      • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
        8·
        7 个月前

        Several states with republican leadership have required identification to view sites that have “adult content”. You technically can still access it without a VPN in these states, but I’m not trusting these sites with personally identifying information. Depending on the state I think you have to upload an image of your ID and other information. It’s really sketchy.

        • sznowicki@lemmy.world
          31·
          7 个月前

          What the fucking fuck. In Europe this would cause French and Germans combined beheading entire governments. One thing I want to keep to myself is my porn choices. Giving my ID to a porn site sounds like a big fucking NO

          • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
            2·
            7 个月前

            I think they’re looked up to verify they’re authentic. I’m not certain, but I’m pretty sure that’s the case. If it isn’t then it’d be easier to just take an image of a real ID and modify it rather than using image generation to hope it comes out correct.

    • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
      3·
      7 个月前

      Oh man, this is a much better comparison.

      It’s still not perfect, though, since technically porn isn’t banned, but it’s effectively banned by requiring ID checking, which major websites like pornhub refuse to do.

      But this also allegedly targets “culture”, just like China’s great firewall. It’s pretty damn stupid.

    • unalivejoy@lemm.eeEnglish
      325·
      7 个月前

      Specifically American tiktok. The tiktok they have isn’t the same. Iirc It’s only educational stuff, and you get a time limit.

  • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de
    39·
    7 个月前

    Off topic but I really enjoyed much of this show (Umbrella Academy), particularly I was so impressed with how the child actor actually pulled off carrying the entire show, he was not only the leading & most interesting character but also IMO had one of the best performances on it. Come to think of it, I should look into what else he’s done.

    Anyway, what episode is this from, do you know? (I know it’s just a meme format now, worth a shot tho)

    Excellent post btw, I gave all the upvote I could

    • Grass@sh.itjust.works
      23·
      7 个月前

      The umbrella academy was hard carried by five. The actor really pulled off the adult stuck in a kid’s body thing. The actor that played the guy with addiction issues was great too.

      • MrJameGumb@lemmy.world
        15·
        7 个月前

        If you like Klaus you should watch a show the same actor did years ago called Misfits! He kind of carried that show too, it was never quite as good after he left lol

        • tfw_no_toiletpaper@lemmy.world
          2·
          7 个月前

          I actually watched the whole first season with a buddy of mine but couldn’t get myself to like it. Only good thing was all that bri’ish swearing

        • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
          2·
          7 个月前

          Yeah I stopped watching when he did. It was teen drama before, which I’m normally not a fan of, but he made it worth it. Without him it was just another “teens get crazy powers, hijinks ensue” show.

          • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
            3·
            7 个月前

            It was one of the first “teens misuse crazy powers” I saw.

            Lactokinesis was an excellent superpower.

            However, After the time travel was resolved there wasn’t much left to keep long term interest.

          • MrJameGumb@lemmy.world
            2·
            7 个月前

            I kept watching for a few more seasons. There was enough of the original cast left that it wasn’t bad per se, but it wasn’t the same. I finally had to give up during that season where the guy was screaming about his missing cock the whole time lol

    • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
      1·
      7 个月前

      I’m introducing my partner to the show now. We’re just about to finish S1. Gotta be ready when the final season drops.

  • Lasherz12@lemmy.world
    343·
    7 个月前

    They’re gonna be real disappointed with the version of “Tiktok” available in China

    • refalo
      113·
      7 个月前

      that’s not how VPNs work

      • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        61·
        7 个月前

        Regulated doesn’t mean they control all VPNs, it means they usually have laws requiring any use of VPN to be licensed, and usually is allowed for businesses rather than individuals. They also block via their firewall many providers. Of course, you could always use one illegally as long as traffic isn’t blocked. Just don’t get caught.

      • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldEnglish
        41·
        7 个月前

        Sure it is. But it means that they can tell the VPNs to block the same stuff that everyone else is told to block.

        • refalo
          22·
          7 个月前

          “the VPNs” is not a thing when literally anyone’s connection can be a VPN for someone else and nobody else would know

    • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      4·
      7 个月前

      Same in Russia. I worked with a banking company that had a Russia office, and the company had to get government approval for the BOVPNs that were used.

      • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        7 个月前

        Security and testing localization will be big use cases. But privacy and or using banned apps, no so much. They don’t call it the Great Firewall for nothing. ISPs, VPNs, etc.

        If you want to use western social media , it’s not as simple as jumping into a VPN.

  • mechoman444@lemmy.world
    239·
    7 个月前

    This is the kind of thing that gets to me in this whole TikTok situation the most.

    China bans most American based social media and what it doesn’t ban is heavily monitored censored and regulated.

    Why would we (Americans) want to willingly use a Chinese owned/based/operated social media platform like TikTok?

    We should never have started using it in the first place or at least immediately dropped it as soon as it became common knowledge that it had substantial ties to china.

    There is so much hypocrisy on all sides of this issue.

    • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.socialEnglish
      383·
      7 个月前

      What’s funny about this is that the fear of Chinese Authoritarianism leads Americans straight into American Authoritarianism.

      It’s this close to self awareness and then veers straight into hypocrisy

      • nymwit@lemm.ee
        2·
        7 个月前

        It does smack of hypocrisy but I’ve been feeling more it’s a paradox of tolerance thing. Which itself a sort of hypocrisy now that I’m thinking about it. Huh.

        • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.socialEnglish
          11·
          7 个月前

          nah, i don’t see it as a tolerance issue at all, I see it more through a Chomsky/Foucault lens.

          US social media has been used as a state messaging apparatus for going on two decades now, and a foreign-owned platform is simply not as responsive to US state pressure as a domestically-owned one. China was simply playing the same game as the US has been. It’s not at all surprising that the US would want to ban one that has gotten to be so widely used - but what’s funny about it is the messaging/logic used to do so.

          “A communist authoritarian actor is influencing civilian opinion through media curation, so we must take drastic authoritarian action to control media curation to stop foreign influence of civilian opinion.”

          I think seeing it through a ‘paradox of tolerance’ lens kinda misses the point of the irony I see in the response.

      • markon@lemmy.world
        1·
        7 个月前

        Well, they probably read Machiavelli and may not always have our best interests at heart so it’s not inconceivable it’s entirely intentional.

    • Vytle@lemmy.world
      132·
      7 个月前

      We are not in China, are we? The (american) government should NOT have control over what information its citizens have access to. We should not strive to be like China in this regard.

      • zewm@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        7 个月前

        I think they mean that the users shouldn’t use it. Not that the government should ban it.

    • sudo
      133·
      7 个月前

      China censors what its people sees on its platforms so its people started using facebook. Then China started demanding that facebook censor itself in China (there was a major terror attack that sparked this) but Facebook refused so they banned it. Same thing happened with reddit and such.

      Meanwhile, the US started censoring its major media platforms people either fled to niche libre sites like this or the shiny new addictive app from China. China doesnt care about what americans see. It’ll happily let americans see Israelis document their war crimes. The US said, sell to american investors, and be censored or be banned. ByteDance chose being banned. Welcome to the great american firewall.

      • TwinTusks@bitforged.spaceEnglish
        3·
        7 个月前

        I don’t know if Chinese government actually reaches out to social platforms before banning them, I remember reddit was avaliable in China in 2015 - 2016ish. Then it got banned, I believe its because of its political contents (r/china and such).

        • sudo
          1·
          7 个月前

          China will reach out and say “you’re not following the law, follow the law or be banned” before banning a company.

    • EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de
      7·
      7 个月前

      China bans most American based social media

      they’ve banned all the big ones except youtube, but their version of youtube is extremely censored.

    • Dozzi92@lemmy.world
      53·
      7 个月前

      It’s the VPN’s service.

      Anytime I see a misplaced apostrophe I assign some kind ownership to it. This one’s okay.

    • andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      7 个月前

      Please, don’t even touch this. With our RKN and useless pinnocchios banning random things extrajudiciously, I’d be surprised if we’d have any access to the internet in 2026. For those without a government issued pass and active service in bot farms, I mean. If I’d get limited to local resources, I feel like I’d give up on internet altogether. Can’t discuss shit there without pseudo-trad weirdos chiming in.

      It may be a major plus for the Internet as a whole if the cable is cut completely, but I feel like it’d only be cut for dissenting folks, while carriers of the official talking points wouldn’t ever get limited.

  • Lila_Uraraka@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    136·
    7 个月前

    Fun fact, China doesn’t even have TikTok, their version is strictly educational and can only be used certain times of the day, to my understanding

    • TwinTusks@bitforged.spaceEnglish
      25·
      7 个月前

      is strictly educational and can only be used certain times of the day

      Nope and nope. Like normak tiktok, douyin have all sort of things, depends on what you view. You can login to it (doesn’t have to), and the account is connect to your cellphone number which is connected to your national ID. I don’t know if theres time limitations if you are a minor though.

    • FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      11·
      7 个月前

      I’ve sideloaded douyin before, it isn’t strictly educational but I do believe if a child is using the device there is time limits. and also you can’t sign up without a Chinese ID but it doesn’t require an account. I actually did find some Americans on there who somehow found a way to sign up.

      • orangeboats@lemmy.world
        7·
        7 个月前

        The IDs of criminals are sometimes leaked on the web. People use those leaked IDs to register their account. Many systems don’t actually check whether the ID is already registered, it works as long as the ID itself is valid.

        • markon@lemmy.world
          21·
          7 个月前

          Lol lazy CCP. Now that optimization is going brr that probably won’t last. Lol idk maybe they don’t care. If it isn’t a problem why care? If it became an issue though they’d lock it down so fast lol

    • baseless_discourse@mander.xyz
      10·
      7 个月前

      China has indeed blocked tiktok, but their version, douyin likely runs on similar systems and have similar types of contents. These two versions just don’t share content and probably have different moderation and privacy policies.

      I think you are confusing the tiktok block with the computer game ban, which requires excessive verifications (even biometric) to play games. And underaged children can only play games in assigned time slots with time limit:

      In 2019, the country imposed a cybercurfew barring those under 18 from playing games between 10 p.m. and 8 a.m.

      Recognizing that wily teenagers might try to use their parents’ devices or identities to circumvent the restrictions, the Chinese internet conglomerate Tencent said this week that it would close the loophole by deploying facial recognition technology in its video games.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/08/business/video-game-facial-recognition-tencent.html

    • cm0002@lemmy.world
      51·
      7 个月前

      Meh, entirely different type of SM, what we really need is the defederated version of TT

      But video is expensive so it probably won’t happen for a long time

      Now if TT redoes their app to be defederated to evade US law that would be hilarious

      • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
        2·
        7 个月前

        I saw a post for this service yesterday I think. I don’t remember the name of it or I’d post a link, but it is created now and I think it’s active, or will be soon. It’s only for short-form video though, like TikTok, which isn’t my style of content.

      • WamGams@lemmy.ca
        2·
        7 个月前

        Supposedly Pixelfed or Peertube just added shorts.

        A big issue with that is when I signed up to peertube 10 months ago, literally the only videos I could find were French language protestors.