• refalo
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    6 个月前

    tit for tat is not a defense. he started it by getting out of the car to confront the man for no good reason.

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      So what? He was just supposed to continue having slurs hurled his way and not get upset about the fact?

      Fuck out of here with that bullshit mindset

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        yes, it’s called being the better man.

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          Sorry Mr Perfect not everyone has no breaking point, we’ll send you in the next time we need someone to withstand torture though. fkn hell lol

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          a person subjected to racist slurs is by default the better man than the one hurling the racist slurs.

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          We’ve had over a decade of “when they go low, we go high” - how well has that worked? Maybe you’ve eaten too many vegetables amateurishly grown in contaminated backyards?

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      Talk shit, get hit. That’s how free speech works. You can say whatever the hell you want but words have consequences and consequences can suck.

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      He got out of the truck because the guy was flipping out at him, and chose to use racist insults to provoke him. A simple proverb that could have helped that racist fuck: don’t let your mouth write a check your ass can’t cash ✨

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        that’s not a good enough reason to get out and is just begging for trouble. it’s extremely aggressive.

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          It actually is, there’s a legal concept for fighting words that basically acknowledges you can’t prosecute someone for getting provoked when the other guy was very obviously trying to provoke them.

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            On that note:

            If you can’t be prosecuted, it’s automatically a great idea.

            Rude people should always be killed when there’s a valid legal pathway to doing so. No need to take a picture of the guy to post online or print and post on telephone poles, no need to tell your boss or call the cops - just meet the offender’s level of aggression up to and including violent acts that may lead to death.

            Stop thinking, de-escalating, destressing: kill. They were mean first!

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              If you matching the other’s violence means you could kill him, it means he could’ve just as easily killed you first.

              If you don’t defend yourself in a situation where you could just die, you’re incredibly stupid.

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            Fighting words have almost no meaning anymore, and it does not inherently prevent someone from being successfully prosecuted in all or even most cases.

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          Truck driver didn’t throw the first punch, though. Extremely aggressive would be provoking someone with racial epithets and then proceeding to punch them when they pull over to respond.

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            responding was the bigger mistake IMO

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              Nah, the idiot went on too long without receiving consequences for his stupid mouth. People that say shit like that only say it because they think they can antagonize others without expecting anything in return. I imagine that guy had a long history of shit-talking, you don’t spontaneously just become a racist fuckface with a loud mouth.

              The fact he took the next step and punched the guy in the face–that’s where he crossed the line, and all bets were off. He could have just apologized, run, or shut up but instead he chose to further escalate the situation that he started. At the end of the day, this isn’t about being the “bigger man” or whatever it is you’re trying to do to make the racist the good guy. Some people need to learn that you can’t just go fucking with anyone you like without fear of retribution.

              His parents would have done well to warn them of the dangers they might face by picking a fight with a stranger. Luckily, we can learn from his mistake and perhaps even share this tale with our loved ones so they too can catch themselves before they start hurting racial epithets at truck drivers, then proceeding to punch them in the face when confronted for their words. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                  He brought it on himself. Whether he deserved it or not is irrelevant

                  If I’m allergic to shellfish and decide to eat them anyway, did i deserve to die?

                  Look before you leap!

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                    I’m not sure what I think about this. He probably deserved a punch, and no, you wouldn’t deserve to die if you ate shellfish when allergic to shellfish.

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      he started it

      Eeeeh, no? The other guy was hurling racist remarks at him. He went to confront the guy. That is not starting it, that is following up.

      Once the other guy delivered the first punch, the other guy started both the insults and the fight.

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        he was exercising his free speech rights and you think that deserves death?

        following up

        when has that ever solved anything peacefully when the other person is yelling slurs? getting out of the car was the worst possible decision.

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          Freedom of speech is not freedom from speech bud, don’t act like an asshole and not expect to be treated like an asshole.

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          He was exercising his fREEEEEdom to fuck around and find out. Also throwing the first punch was the nail in the coffin, so to speak.

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          … For which he should go to jail?

          You know what a bad decision is? Yelling slurs and throwing hands when you know you arent in best health

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      You’re not wrong. I never understand the stupidity of escalating a confrontation when a perfectly valid method of avoiding it like walking or driving away exists. Someone calls you a bad name over and over so you have the choice of a) getting out of your vehicle and opening up all kinds of possibilities for shit to go wrong, or b) leave, and nothing else happens.

      So this place is turning out to be just as bloodthirsty as Reddit, looking for fights instead of walking away and then saying FAFO as justification when someone dies. Life is so cheap for some.

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        finally someone on your server with a brain /s