When did the human population stop being finite?
Turns out you don’t need an infinite number of monkeys to get Hamlet.
Right. Maybe only… 117 billion, give or take like 7 billion.
I think, they mean across generations. Theoretically, infinite generations could follow, with therefore infinite new humans.
Either way, it doesn’t actually need to be infinite, but rather just approaching infinity, to give high enough of a chance for a monkey to produce hamlet. Even just the 8 billion humans alive are already a pretty massive number of monkeys.
But universe is is finite with finite ending. Humans will die out way before the heat death of the universe
But universe is is finite with finite ending.
I don’t think there’s scientific consensus about that, is there?
Finiteness of the universe is not certain, but inevitability of entropy is pretty sure.
Yes, please refer to my second paragraph.
When infinite growth became mainstream ideology.
“It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times”? You stupid monkey!
“Ford!” he said, "there’s an infinite number of monkeys outside who want to talk to us about this script for Hamlet they’ve worked out.
This is pretty dumb, the whole point of the monkey with typewriters thing is that they’re typing random characters, not knowing the language.
You’re right, but it isnt trying to actually argue that, its a joke.
I understand it’s a joke, but it’s a poorly-formed joke that exposes its writer not understanding the thing they’re riffing on, lol.
Would be kind of like making a joke based on a stereotype of NBA players mostly being redheads, with no such stereotype existing, lol.
Jokes necessarily often leave behind details to work.
Here the whole joke is pointing out similarities we see are forced.
And besides, it’s obvious the author was intentionally being “wrong”, otherwise we’d be suggesting the author assumed the thought-experiment was monkeys who knew language, intentionally typing out great works. That’s a pretty useless situation to make up, it doesn’t suggest anything interesting.
The joke is that the writer is intentionally misunderstanding.
you can take the redditor out of reddit, but you can’t take reddit out of the redditor.
Counterpoint: I think you just described Twitter.
The meta of the joke, as well as the philosophical idea that underpins it, is that the universe is based in probability and we are the result of those infinite dice rolls eventually making a human race that can think and be conscious and create Hamlet.
But what is random, really? Why did those monkeys smash the keys that they did?
I just wrote it again, word for word, with 6 random button presses. CTRL+A, CTRL+C, CTRL+V. Where is my BANANA!?
🍌🍪you get a cookie too
This llama saying, ‘we’ & ‘us’ like he’s one of us. 😡
maybe we are some Alien dude’s crappy brute force solution to some problem
Apes
I sit here all day writing random words, and still no Shakespeare.
Still more comprehensible than the average monkey!
Act 3, scene 3, line 92
Once more, not monkeys, Great Apes
Our tails are vestigial
what about Hamlet 2?
So the experiment was a success then? What are we still doing here? Are we supposed to be writing Hamlet II: Electric Boogaloo? 2 Hamlet 2 Furious?
Hamlet Surfers.
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It’s good, but it’s not in iambic pentameter.
I cant wait for one of the monkeys to write " Plibious Montgomery: A tale of 37 doughnuts and the rise and fall of the neo llama consortiumismship."
Just ask Gemini.