• Lemminary
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    193 months ago

    I love you, English as my second language, but you cray cray and I ain’t doing all of that.

    • Skua
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      123 months ago

      Don’t worry, virtually no first-language English speakers do either

      • @[email protected]
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        33 months ago

        About the only one of those I use (besides the regular ones like ‘a flock of birds’) is ‘a murder of crows’. Usually in a statement like “We just witnessed a murder.”

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          I think I generally operate on “it flies = flock”, “it swims = shoal”, and “it walks on land = herd”. There are exceptions, but that’s the broad approach

          • dave@hal9000
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            13 months ago

            Agreed, although I think a school of fish is also pretty broadly used, no?

            • Skua
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              23 months ago

              I would definitely recognise it and would not consider it weird if I heard someone say it, but I probably wouldn’t instinctively reach for it myself. That’s obviously just me though, not necessarily English speakers in general

              • dave@hal9000
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                13 months ago

                Ah ok. I am not a native speaker, but would say I have a near native fluency in American English (moved here at 15 having already learned it before), and school of fish would be my go to, but shoal is the same as you said to me, sounds perfectly natural. Now that I am thinking about it though, it feels like every time I was near one (on a boat, or scuba diving), people said shoal, and in more abstract settings, school was more common. That’s probably just me inventing a pattern though

      • @[email protected]
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        13 months ago

        Pretty much. There’s no need to learn all these terms. When in doubt, just call the animal group a group. No one is going to care otherwise.

  • IninewCrow
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    103 months ago

    I’m Ojibway/Cree from northern Ontario in Canada

    In English - a group of moose is just ‘a group of moose’ … as far as I know, I’ve never heard of meese or mooses … or else people just say two moose, three moose, four moose, etc.

    In Ojibway/Cree - one moose is ‘moose’, because moose is an indigenous word … a group of moose in my language is MOOSUK

    • dave@hal9000
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      43 months ago

      Very interesting, thanks for sharing. Just curious, is -uk just a general suffix to make anything plural, or this is just a one off thing here?

      • IninewCrow
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        43 months ago

        Yes it is for most words.

        Goose is niska … the plural is niskuk

        Beaver is amisk… the plural is amiskuk

        It’s not a hard rule but it applies to many things, objects and animals.

        • dave@hal9000
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          23 months ago

          Ah thanks, that would explain seeing -uk in so many name places I guess

  • Redex
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    53 months ago

    Who decides stuff like this? Who’s like “hmm, yeah a group of owls is definitely a parliament”

  • Deebster
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    43 months ago

    What’s the collective noun for a group of politicians?

    • edric
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      53 months ago

      I thought it was a congress of baboons, but apparently that was a joke that has been circulated for a while now that everyone just accepted as fact.

  • @[email protected]
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    33 months ago

    I don’t know if it is still in print but there is a book that is a collection of collective nouns. The book is called An Exaltation of Larks by James Lipton.

    It is the same James Lipton who hosts the Inside the Actors Studio.

  • 10_0
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    23 months ago

    The image isn’t working now

  • ArxCyberwolf
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    13 months ago

    “Hey look, it’s a bunch of [insert animal here]” is so much simpler.