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“If someone is going to try and blackmail me with advertising? Blackmail me with money? Go fuck yourself. Go fuck yourself. Is that clear? Hey Bob, if you’re in the audience. That’s how I feel, don’t advertise.”
- Elon, 2023
Careful, you might convince Tesla shareholders to fork over a few more billion to keep the big brained genius motivated.
“Give me 60 billions this year, or the Tesla stock will lose even of more of its price next year!” – Elon, probably.
That’s pretty much exactly what he claimed.
If the market were rational that would have been the end of Tesla. It takes some extreme brainletry to turn a huge market advantage into actively losing ground to new entrants. And he is still at it. Being a dimwitted Nazi on Twitter is his top priority. Tesla sales will continue to spiral down the drain.
(Yes, if the market were rational the end might have come sooner, but certainly giving billions to a brainlet actively sabotaging the company should end it.)
Remember he is exceedingly wealthy, so he can buy Tesla stock through third parties to prop the price up without alarming investors. No, it’s not legal, but we all know the man doesn’t give a shit about the law.
Go fuck yourself! Is that clear?
Can I have a few billion now too?
I think this should be posted as a comment to every article about this.
Someone needs to make a drawing of it because when he originally said it he opened his mouth wide and through his head back like was a literal puppet
I’m surprised nobody saw his forked lizard tongue when that happened!
It’s right there in the 4th paragraph of the article itself.
You mean you actually read the article? Blasphemy!
Somebody has to do the dirty work.
What’s it say? Go find yourself? Go Fill yourself? IDK is this some game you Americans have where you have to guess the word, because the amount of pearl clutching is just too insane in America?
Ah yes that’s the amazing freedom of speech Americans are so proud of, except they don’t actually have it, they are just indoctrinated to think so.
My god American regulation is so idiotic sometimes!!!
There’s no regulation, we can and do say fuck without any problem. Some people prefer not to swear either for personal, social, or religious reasons. They chose to self censor not because they had to but because they wanted to. You’re reading an awful fucking lot into a random ass image some anonymous user posted in a comment.
Can confirm, am American and try to avoid swearing, not because there are penalties (friends, coworkers, etc swear all the time), but because I don’t like swearing. I find it makes me an angrier person, so I just don’t do it.
If you want to swear, go for it, it really won’t offend me. But I won’t swear in return. Different strokes for different folks.
There’s so goddamn much to swear about in these fucking times we live in that I really respect anyone who can still hold their shit together enough not to.
Or if you’re someone who uses speech to text on your phone. Nearly every system that I’ve ever used asterisks out everything after the first letter. It can be a lot of extra effort to go back and fill the fucks in. But if there’s one fucking thing worth doing fucking right. Fucking filling out those fat fucking fucks is fucking it. It’s one of the most fucking versatile words on the planet. It can be a fucking adjective, one of the most versatile verbs no matter what fucked up tense you choose, and even a motherfucking noun.
Sorry your phone/ textingapp does what? What app/ phone do you use? Ive never encountered or even heard about that
They’re not talking about texting apps, it’s keyboards and speech to text engines that often have a profanity filter, which usually is on by default.
I disable it on everything every time I change phones or format, but not everybody tinkers with settings.
You probably default to a keyboard without profanity filter.
Ahh ok
we can and do say fuck without any problem.
Not on public TV you can’t. Beep beep beep Fucking idiots.
You can, most networks just decide not to. Broadcast TV (which hasn’t really existed for I think more than a decade now) had restrictions about swearing (and other content) enforced by the FCC as it used a public good (RF bands). Cable TV (and now streaming services) are and pretty much have always been unregulated.
TV Networks, being companies trying to make money, opt to self censor so as to appeal to the largest number of viewers, but that isn’t anything to do with the government, it’s 100% a business decision.
https://www.tvguide.com/news/features/tv-censorship-nudity-profanity/
swear words that are still taboo on broadcast TV to this day – ended up causing the highest court to rule that the Federal Communications Commission had the authority to regulate what viewers see on broadcast media.
Yeah that entire article basically agreed with everything I said. Technically broadcast TV does have some limitations enforced by the FCC (because it uses radio to transmit) even to this day, but broadcast TV is basically dead. I actually thought they had shut those stations down a few years ago, but I guess they’re still around. Regardless there are absolutely no government regulations that control what’s shown on cable and streaming services. 100% of censorship that occurs there is a business decision by the TV Networks and has absolutely nothing to do with the government.
My god American regulation is so idiotic sometimes!!!
Dude, some person made that meme, and that person chose to use asterisks. It’s no more complicated than that.
What’s it say? Go find yourself? Go Fill yourself? IDK is this some game you Americans have where you have to guess the word
Apparently our ability to figure out a word from context is pretty much higher than yours though.
What the f*** dude calm down.
You think that’s bad, get this. In most US states (47), public school students are required by law to recite the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag of the United States once per school day, though…for most of those states…students may opt themselves out.
However, in four states (Texas, Florida, Pennsylvania, and Utah), students may not opt themselves out. The school must receive a written statement from a parent or guardian in order to be exempt.
I have taught in Texas public schools since 2005, and I brought this up with an attorney for the teacher organization I joined (not a union as Texas bans collective bargaining for state employees, so our dues are really not much more than lawsuit insurance). He told me that, in the eyes of the state courts, children under the age of eighteen not being yet adults do not enjoy the same right to freedom of speech that adults do. Hence, in the eyes of the courts, a school district would be within their rights to fire a teacher who does not do their part to ensure all students under their purview recite the Pledge during the time it is spoken over the school’s PA system (and the Pledge to the Texas state flag, also mandatory), 1st Amendment be damned.
Thankfully, I got a gig teaching in Oregon next year, so I am heading northwest (through the also miserable states of Utah and Idaho unfortunately) and never looking back.
Ah Texas, where children can’t make decisions or be held accountable in any way, unless they’re brown skinned and can be accused of a crime, then they must he tried as adults and sentenced to life as an imprisoned slave.
You don’t want to play this game with me, son. Whatever you hurl at me about Oregon, I’ll lob back at you something twice as bad about Texas.
I get that Oregon has its hard right people. Hell, most states do. But at least my trans kids gender identity is protected by state law, and my having a trans kid won’t result in me being on the governor’s fucking hit list.
Welcome to the hypocritical world of Puritan culture.
Some of the earliest British settlers in the US were so extremist that the Church of England kicked them out after they tried to assassinate the king and replace him with a puppet of their own to force their beliefs on the rest of the country.
It was partly these crazies that started the whole sex and bodies=bad and shameful thing in the US that advertisers still believe in today. And swearing is yet another of those weird things. But sex sells, so it’s okay to imply it as long as it’s selling a product and no other time.
What are you talking about? There is no law or regulation requiring that text to be censored. They did it because they wanted to.
You’re reading into things way too much here, man.
“For the children “ …. Like none of them have ever heard bad words…. They must be protected at all cost.
Like a person who likes to grab them by the pussy…
Yes and they may actually reelect that criminal traitor malignant narcissist SOB! .
That’s the the country that refuses to regulate guns despite massive amounts of school shootings, but won’t allow words to be written or said because that is apparently more harmful than bullets!!!It’s absolute insanity.
I’m not the one who
toldcorrected you earlier, but ket me reiterate…You are incorrect in your assumption that our “country,” government, etc. censors our speech. Some people choose to self-censor and the government has nothing to do with that.
Also, you seem confused about what free speech (see: first amendment) actually means. This XKCD might help explain it to you.
The government does actually censor broadcast television and radio. I can’t remember why they’re allowed to.
Swear words? Boobs? Hell nah
Someone getting shot ten times? PG-13
I think it’s hilarious that there are swear budgets for various ratings. I’m pretty sure adults can tell whether a movie is intended for kids or not, and they’re the most sensitive to foul language.
I personally choose to not swear, but I watch and listen to plenty of content with vulgar language of all varieties, it really doesn’t bother me, so I don’t see why it’s so taboo in movie ratings…
except they don’t actually have it, they are just indoctrinated to think so.
What are we not allowed to say, exactly?
Ha you don’t even know, that so funny. Look up freedom of speech index, and see the difference to countries that have better freedom of speech than USA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Press_Freedom_IndexI didn’t ask about any indices, I asked what you think we’re not allowed to say.
For instance in schools you are not allowed to talk about gender identity in some states.
Often you are not allowed to teach about slavery either.
You are also often not allowed as a teacher or just working at the school to say if you anything other than straight.
That would actually be illegal to enforce in countries with better protected freedom of speech.
One school banned a graphic novel Maus about holocaust despite it has won a Pulitzer.
Aaron Swartz was persecuted by authorities to the point of suicide for legally copying and trying to make information available to the public, that should by definition of the terms they were kept, be available to the public, but were not.
In the military you are not allowed to say you are gay.The terrorist acts has secret courts giving secret organisations power to silence companies on for instance when information is demanded on users from companies like Google, Facebook, Microsoft Apple, also when the demands are illegal by normal law, generally because they are too wide. Other often targeted companies are also mail services with increased security. This is monitored by a secret club in congress. This is part of what Obama called a “balanced” approach.
Failure to respect these secret courts, will result in you being judged by same secret courts!!!
You are not even allowed to seek outside council or mention it to anybody for help on what to do.In much the same way there are restriction on the “free” press, which make it impossible for the press to air concerns. This is probably why you have a multitude of stories like this:
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/05/02/most-u-s-journalists-are-concerned-about-press-freedoms/What’s notable is that the more experience a journalist has, the more likely he is aware there’s a problem. But there are no specifics on exactly what the problems are.
On public TV you cannot air profanity:
https://www.tvguide.com/news/features/tv-censorship-nudity-profanity/
outlined the swear words that are still taboo on broadcast TV to this day – ended up causing the highest court to rule that the Federal Communications Commission had the authority to regulate what viewers see on broadcast media.
Beep beep beep, it’s so incredibly stupid!!!
So maybe the meme was self censored, but it was out of a habit of doing so because in some situations you MUST, meaning your freedom of speech is restricted. By doing so on the meme, it parrots more official channels.
USA is probably the most censored country of the free world they claim to protect, and you don’t even know it!?!?!
Which still has fuck-all to do with the asterisks in the picture, because the creator put those there himself
Say stupid things, people treat you like you’re stupid, stupidly cry about how freedom of speech should prevent people from treating you like the idiot you are.
Fuck you, Jack.
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Musk sheepishly suggested that he didn’t mean “advertisers as a whole.”
“Advertisers have a right to appear next to content that they find compatible with their brands,” he told ad giant WPP CEO Mark Read during an interview on Wednesday. “What is not cool is insisting that there can be no content that they disagree with on the platform.”
How is that “not cool?” I don’t understand how he can possibly object to a company spending their advertising dollars wherever they damn well choose to. He repeatedly makes it clear that he feels entitled to their budgets. There is zero basis for that. I truly cannot fathom how he can be so dense about this.
He can object because he’s decided that’s what is right. Literally nothing else matters.
The piece of shit that used to own my company is like this. His decision is correct and gospel, and if you don’t agree or if it’s provably false you are wrong. And it’s your fault you are wrong, because he has decided it to be correct.
Right but the bubble of rightness you speak of is usually only assumed to include the company staff. Really powerful CEOs have their board inside the bubble too, or even public investors. But Elon thinks the customers work for him too. That’s really beyond the pale.
No argument here. Just highlighting the absolutely insane mindset of business owners/CEOs at all scales.
Wowow! That was so long ago! Literally dozens of weeks ago! I’m sure this full-blown narcissist has seen the error of his ways and changed his mind. Surely.
Calling out Bob Iger in particular was the cherry on top.
Massive hubris.
Yes. Elon should approach his advertisers on bended knee – after changing Twitter back to Twitter, and creating a proper moderation system that filters out neonazis and Russian AI Trump-bots.
Oh, George Washington rode the waves
Abe Lincoln wore his hat with praise
Thomas Jefferson, the sandy king, and
Teddy Roosevelt, the beach-hiking thing
Barrack Obama, surfing gracefully
Historical presidents at the sea!
– @hisvault.eth- Elon with TSLA stock at 2023 levels, lol
This is the most upvotes I’ve seen on a Lemmy post so far… Granted, I’ve only been here a couple days, but still!
“I hope they stop. Don’t advertise, If somebody is going to try to blackmail me with advertising, blackmail me with money, go fuck yourself. Go fuck yourself. Is that clear? I hope it is." - Elon Musk, November 27th 2023
Advertisers:
Advertisers: OK. Call.
Literally all he needs to do is shut the fuck up and collect money, and he can’t even manage that.
But if I keep my mouth shut how will I assert that I am the most important human on the planet?
Nope, he can’t manage that. Because he’s an attention-whoring malignant narcissist.
I can’t wait for the bubble of mystique to pop on this arsehole, if only so we don’t have to ever hear from or about him again. Sadly, there are still plenty of rubes in his cult of personality and greedy investors willing to ride his coattails. So I’m not holding my breath.
Don’t do kids, drugs
Doesn’t even have to collect money, he could just sell everything except SpaceX and still live a happy life and fly to Mars one day.
If only… That’s the universe I want to live in.
- Tells customers to go fuck themselves
- They leave
- They stop paying for advertisement
- Twitter/X makes no money from advertisement
Elon:
That is the clearest I’ve ever seen the surprised Pikachu image.
Hey! I wanted to comment that! Seems like it got vectorized 🙊
Someone drew it. It’s not a screen cap of digital media.
Well, Adobe can create svg out of anything, easy
I think someone drew a new one.
Someone needs to deep fry it.
Don’t forget his total lack of actual ‘prowess’ in running Twitter.
- changing the name to X
- Firing employees
- employees severance issues
- Reneging on free speech promises
- Using hidden accounts
- Unbanning of people who should be banned
- Killing API access
- Forcing login to view tweets
- add your fave Twitter dumpster fire item here
You forgot “Tells advertisers to go fuck themselves”
Them’s the customers.
Well… Fair enough. Ain’t no arguing with that.
Can’t remember the last time I was on Twitter. Turns out I don’t need it. Turns out I’m just a little happier without it.
I was trying to find active users since he took over. But the only numbers I can find are numbers provided by Musk, who is a well known liar.
I know Lemmy and Mastodon are niche communities, and that people put up with a lot of garbage from Big Tech, but I have to believe that a lot of users have left Twitter, or least that usage is down. I also assume bots are way up, because Musk wants his numbers to be up regardless of the source (save for people with an opposing opinion).
Hopefully Musk’s shitty little empire crumbles…soon.
3 years
I wish some politicians, artists, and scientists that I used to follow used Mastodon.
I deleted my account and my stress level is way down.
Twitter was never good, but it’s a cesspool of scum and villainy.
I also left it for the most part (only there to squat my user handle - I have some enemies), and I’m better without it. Even before the Muskrat overtake, its algorithm often bought the worst out of me, and I had to realize that wasn’t me. After that, it became worse than the forums from the late 2000’s that were overtaken by a few moderators to turn them into “free speech zone”, except they liked to harass people for having “dumb opinions”, one of which was not liking racism, and those admins also liked to claim PoC robbing whites are a “race motivated crime”.
I like the smaller communities of the Fediverse, I even started to remember usernames and avatars here on lemmy (and before that, kbin) without having a follow function I know of. When I was on Reddit, I felt massively alienated, didn’t know anyone there really, and the place got more and more dominated by a select few toxic individuals.
I thought, it was only “woke” companies went broke. Are we now saying “Go fash, no cash”?
Go fash, no cash.
Fukkkin saved.
Go fund yourself.
He just got approved for that big $40+ billion compensation package from Tesla so he’s got lots to work with.
A single billion is an obscene amount of money for an individual, I can’t fathom how anyone can be worth/earn a billion in a couple of years.
Exploitation is the answer.
He works really really hard ;)
Yeah, you guys try making 20-30 xitposts a day. He deserves pay that is best expressed in scientific notation.
To me it’s mental that stock holders would approve such package when company itself for its entire existence had income that is smaller than his “bonus”. Some people are downright stupid.
Theyre wealthy not smart. The smart wealthy ones fade into obscurity, like Tom or that one distant uncle who lives in a cabin in the woods and juat kinda vibes.
What’s absolutely insane to me, is that other CEOs think that’s fair and fine and that Elon is very smart and not a con artist? No wonder Elizabeth Holmes got so far. It’s just so obvious he’s not above board
Most CEOs are also conmen and not any smarter. It’s mostly just a nepotism racket at the executive level.
Yes
Don’t worry, he seems hard at work making sure all that Tesla stock he got will also be worth less everyday.
We ought to normalize this phrase, it’s pure gold!
"I do shoot myself in the foot from time to time, but at least you know it is genuine, not from the PR department”
Yeah we know. He’s genuinely a white supremacist, misogynist, queerphobe piece of shit. A PR department doesn’t give a fuck about any of that, but at least they’d be savvy enough to pretend like they give a damn in order to make money.
misogynist, queerphobe? I never heard him say things like that. Where have you?
Edit: getting downvoted for asking questions… Some people man
asking questions
Yeah thanks there Tucker Carlson.
I think you’re getting downvoted because everyone assumes that you’re being a pedant, not because you asked a question.
Nah, they’re definitely a troll.
Could be.
Mods felt the need to remove their posts, but they were either a troll/bad faith actor or an idiot.
I’ve lost the plot. I’m not sure whose posts were removed.
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I think it was the phrasing. The comment you responded to didn’t say that Musk had said either of the things you asked about. If you’ve been paying attention to the news about the complaints coming out of his companies its very clear that he is those things. It seems that your question is intended to refute the contents of the comment by being pedantic about whether Musk had actually said those things.
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It just sounded a little bit like you were jumping to his defense. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and explained it but I think that’s what happened. There are a LOT of pedants on Lemmy who will argue about whether someone said a specific word of phrase rather than addressing the underlying and obvious truth that someone is a wretched asshole (like Elon Musk.))
He made “cis” a slur on Twitter because it upsets him that his ex who left him is trans, and he hates trans people. He’s had plenty of tweets and posts complaining about pronouns, trans people in general, and so on.
I can’t speak to the misogyny (but I’m sure it’s there), but instead if arguing with people about you “jUsT aSkInG a QuEsTiOn” you could just Google “Elon Musk queerphobic tweets” and Google will supply plenty.
I did, and the first two results were articles from former Twitter/X employees claiming there were homophobic and anti-semitic attacks on the platform after Musk took over. So yeah… Not sure what you want anyone here to do for you that you can’t do yourself via a Google search, you clearly know how to type, and the phrase I suggested is less characters than all your comments combined.
Edit: And then after you did some googling and found the answers, you could edit your comment to say, “Wow, hey guys, I was wrong, he really is misogynistic queerphobic piece of shit,” and be done with it, instead of doubling down like a troll.
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I’m not really interested in your bullshit anymore. There are tweets, from him. There are articles about him quoting tweets he’s used highlighting everything everyone here us telling you. Fucking happy? Can you fucking comprehend now? They’re his words, from his official verified X account.
“FYI I specifically asked for” GO FUCK YOURSELF. I specifically told you to fucking use your fucking brain and Google all of this, but you refuse, because you’re a fucking troll just like Musk, whose cock you have so far down your throat it’s tickling your taint.
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THERE IT IS EVERYONE!!! Troll can’t be happy unless they’re moving the goal posts, now they need thorough context for each and every word Musk has ever said!!
To answer your question, despite you not asking it in good faith and then following it up with two uses of the R-slur: A female journalist raised legitimate criticism of Musk, and he completely disregarded everything she had to say. That’s childish, and misogynist, since I’m sure if Daddy Trump or Papa Putin weighed criticism on him, he wouldn’t have dismissed it.
So I answered your fucking question and gave you “sPeCiFicAlLy” what you asked for, so you’re fucking welcome, troll, not that you know how to say “thank you.”
And reported for use of the R-slur.
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Ok Bud, gold medal mental gymnastics lol
That’s not the sexist part, you have to read more. One Tweet can’t prove anything, but several Tweets are a clear pattern of behavior. Quoting the first sentence betrays your disinterest.
On twitter.com presumably
Which post, if any one knows?
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/elon-musk-twitter-terrible-things-hes-said-and-done (it’s 2022, but you can find more up to date summations if you care to look)
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He’s literally using the wrong pronouns and name for his transgender daughter. He’s literally said he agrees with JK Rowling’s transphobic comments.
You know how after a certain time has passed it’s no longer a spoiler to talk about how Vader is Luke’s father? Well, there’s certain stuff that’s so obvious and widely known that people will stop believing that you don’t know about it and will assume you’re trolling.The fact that you keep insisting that you haven’t seen evidence of him being queerphobe is on you at this point, imo.
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Fuck off troll.
Hi Elon! How is Twitter Co. today? Having a yummy lunch with your coworkers soon?
How right they were to downvote you.
Yes, you’re getting downvoted for asking a stupid question. Do you think people announce “I am a queerphobe and a misogynst”? Read between the fucking lines!
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It’s actually worse than you being incapable of reading between the lines. When presented with evidence, you denied it rather than thanking the person who provided it. So you were asking stupid questions to set up a bad faith argument. Congratulations on being an Elon dick sucker and douchbag.
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Yes, it’s called JAQ’ing off or Sealioning and is how people try to push an idea while still being able to say “oh no not me I’m just curious.”
If you were actually curious you’d google it, or been aware of his descent over the last 5 years.
Someone who is not misogynistic doesn’t usually offer to pay for sex with someone who isn’t a sex worker. That he offered to pay for said sex with a horse makes it extra damning, but that could be my personal bias.
Didn’t he tell advertisers leaving to go fuck themselves? I don’t expect a very long queue of returning ones.
Surely the appreciate the “authenticity” with which he told them to “go fuck yourselves” before flip-flopping and begging them to come back?
“I’d rather be told to ‘have a nice day’ by someone who doesn’t mean it than be told to ‘go fuck yourself’ by someone who does.”
Oh, so telling advertisers to go fuck themselves DIDN’T help Twitter make money? 🤔
Apparenlty telling your customers to go fuck themselves isn’t a good business strategy.
aw, he may be a genocide loving nazi, but at least its from the heart. won’t someone give him some money?
No! Well, some idiot will. But not this idiot! Have you ever heard of Mastodon Social (https://mastodon.social/)?
https://joinmastodon.org/What do you mean ? (sources)
Google “Elon Musk Nazi”, and/or “Elon Musk genocide”
Yes very sourcy
I’m not the one who made the claim, just giving the most basic of research advice
Google “any name Nazi” and you’ll get results. The question was what are you referring to.
Also, I can’t believe this community would down vote anyone for asking for sources, that’s disgusting. I’m disappointed Lemmy.
If you’re so disgusted and disappointed, why don’t you try to find a different community?
It’s hard to feel disappointed about something you don’t really care about. That is to say, the reason I feel disappointed is because I like this community and I want it to be a place for civil discourse. Conversely, I’ve given up on Reddit, so nothing that happens there can really disappoint me any more, I no longer care about it.
I’m not going to make a fuss about something that doesn’t impact me, but I will make a fuss about something I believe in, like Lemmy.
They asked for a source in the comments about an article that has sources. RTFA.
The article is just a collection of hyperlinks. Useless article and I will not look through all of them, and I couldn’t even know they were talking about something from the article anyway
So you were downvoted for not bothering to read or even skim the article to do a minimum amount of looking on your own to see what they were talking about.
Don’t pretend like the downvoters read anything
Exactly. Having sources is the minimal starting point to make an opinion. That’s not because this community is supposed safe that I could trust any user information
There are links in the actual article being discussed here.
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‘Begs’ sounds like a strong word comparing to the actual content of the article
Click bait headlines? Never!
“If you’re trying to reach senior decision makers, if you want to reach the most influential people in the world,” Musk told Read, “the X platform is by far the best.”
Does someone want to break it to him that he’s one of about 4 executives of a fortune 500 who spends any time on Twitter? The rest have PR people who might make a couple posts a month for them, but they sure as shit aren’t wasting any time on it arguing with idiots and bots. They’re busy flying around on private jets or playing golf when they aren’t spending their 30 minutes a month working.
I could believe all the psychopaths still use shitter. Anyone I see that links to it is either a financial news organization or the scum they cover.
I’m a psychopath and I don’t use Twitter. I have PTSD. Also you shouldn’t call mentally ill people psychopaths, it’s considered offensive. You should say mentally ill person in the same language you’re speaking, in this case English. And maybe stop saying mentally ill people are rich. We’re not rich.
I’m Spanish and I don’t fight bulls. I’m from Poland. Also you shouldn’t call Europeans Spanish, it’s considered offensive. And maybe stop saying Europeans eat pasta, we don’t eat pasta.
Europeans do eat pasta.
Are you suggesting that they’re lying? On the internet?
I’m sorry, that was more than 140 characters; you have failed, and may God have mercy on your soul.
