• RotatingParts@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    That’s a crazy thing for him to say. The election isn’t just his own little personal competition.

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      In reality, yeah, but it sounds like he wants to show a bit of maturity to set him apart from his opponent.

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      So I guess it’s not a big deal if Trump wins? It’s not an apocalypse if he wins? This is like advising to make your own coffee while the banks get bailed out. When it comes to people voting, people should vote for Biden even if he can’t string a coherent sentence because Trump is the absolute biggest threat to democracy, but when it comes to Biden stepping down, it’s okay if he loses to Trump as long as he gives his best.

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      Right? I don’t think Biden is able to appreciate the gravitas of this election. Like physically unable.

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        I doubt he is able to do much of anything. It feels like watching Weekend at Bernie’s.

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      Eh it’s just the end of democracy and well being of Americans. As long as he gave it his all. /Shrug

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        Well if he said he’d do what it takes, would that make you feel better? Because you know “his all” is all he has right? And if he gave all of it, should he be ashamed?

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    Well, as me and my family are torn apart and sent to re-education camps at least I’ll have the comfort of knowing Joe “gave it his all”.

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    And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why he should not be the candidate. Not because he’s old or whatever. Because he does not understand that if he loses, we fucking lose democracy. Not a joke; not hyperbole. We get to have Russian-style “elections” for the foreseeable future.

    He is so fucking wrapped up in his own ego and hubris that he is going to drive us straight into the fucking wall. He’s so far up his own ass about his ability to compromise that he can’t comprehend that fascist elements of the Republican Party (but I repeat myself) have no intention whatsoever of compromising or negotiating once they really get their hands on the reins of power again.

    He is betraying his oath of office. He’s not meaningfully protecting and defending the constitution from threats foreign and domestic, and he hasn’t done so effectively for basically his entire term. As a historical parallel, it’s like a mashup of the US in 1859 and Germany in 1932. It’s baffling, infuriating, and horrifying, in equal measure. His head is demonstrably not in the game - and it seems he doesn’t even understand the game he’s playing (that’s not a “he’s old” quip - I’m talking about the fact that he continues to bring a deck of cards to the shitshow gunfight that is modern American politics and expects to get good results).

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      Yes. 100% this. Age is just a number. But we need Democrats that will fight for us, for god’s sake. Not just shrug at losing because they, personally, gave it their all. Fuuuuuuuck that noise.

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    Fuck me, he doesn’t even care about the real risk Trump poses, not only to the US, but to the world. I don’t care if he’s done a few good things in his time, Biden’s literally going to hand the presidency back to this felonious fucking psychopathic liar.

    I swear in 2016 I got blipped into an alternative dimension where eventually everything will be consumed by the langoliers

    Edit: The US invented MRNA vaccines, and we get the piece of shit from The Apprentice to hold our nuclear codes, handed the baton by a senile old man asleep at the wheel.

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    He’s going to give it his all, but also he’s going to make sure that he gets enough sleep and avoid scheduling events past 8 pm.

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      Unironically I absolutely believe that pacing yourself properly is the only way to actually “give it your all”. Unless you want him to load up on stimulants of questionable legality, but those might actually kill him before election night.

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        Yes, the campaigning equivalent of a slow shuffle is realistically what “giving his all” means for Biden at this point. The problem is his insistence that this is also better than what anyone else could possibly do.

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          I agree with you, but at the same time I can’t think of any other candidate that would both (1) have enough name recognition to motivate semi-apathetic democrats to vote, and (2) not rile up the semi-apathetic bigots into counter-voting.

          According to the gossip, Biden has said that if he does choose to step down, he’ll promote Harris. I don’t think Democrats will have much of a problem supporting Harris, but I’m concerned being a woman of color will motivate a lot of bigots into a counter-vote when they might have otherwise stayed home. The next best pick might be Buttigieg, but then you get the homophobic bigots coming out for the counter-vote. Newsom might be the next best after that, but then you have the anti-California lunatics coming out to counter-vote him.

          As much as I don’t want to cater to bigots, I think the stakes are just too high here. If it were a campaign against Mitt Romney then I wouldn’t think twice about running any of these people, but when we’re on a razor’s edge against America spiraling into a fascist dictatorship, every risk needs to be accounted for.

          Obviously Biden should’ve declared back in August that he wouldn’t run for reelection so the Democrats could run a primary and build up someone to have name recognition and a positive image, but now it’s too late for that 🤷‍♂️

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            I know it is just a wet dream but plenty of french-leftist would love to see AOC as president.

            Young, woman, Latino. That would anger the conservatives so much and she would probably do very good things for the US population.

            But hey no judgment, maybe tomorrow (Sunday 7th) we will be fucked as well…

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              I would personally love to see AOC as president. Unfortunately I don’t constitute a majority of the electoral college, and right now that’s the only backstop we have against the descent into a fascist dictatorship.

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          Better for someone his age.

          What do you realistically want him to do? What’s an example day for him, according to you?

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        No, I want him to make the biggest sacrifice he can make. Give up his ego and step down.

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      When you’re 81 years old and The President of The United States of America, that is giving it your all

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      I don’t see a problem with this. Your definition of “giving it all” would mean him collapsing at some point. That’s not giving it all, if the goal is to serve the American people.

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        Dude, if he was a firefighter and said the same thing, what would you’re answer be? If there is a fire after 8 pm then you are up fighting the fire. Same with a nurse on call, an air traffic controller, etc. This is a requirement of the most powerful position on earth making decisions that literally impact all of humanity and the fate of western democracy.

        If he can’t do it he shouldn’t be running. Go be a prof or join a corporate board or something if you want a 9-5 and a stable bed time. The president of the United States needs to be able to operate on very little sleep and past 8 pm because this is the fucking real world…

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          Ok, sure, sure, but at this point, that’s all we got. Give it all (then die and set the political landscape back to Trump-era bullshit), or recognize your limits and respect them in order to do the job as best as you can.

          What should we be doing different that would NOT give Trump the presidency? Do tell, please. I’d love to be wrong.

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        If he’s in the general, I’ll vote for Biden’s head in a jar if it comes to that, but this is starting to have some real Hillary 2016 vibes about it. There are a whole lot of dipshits out there that think they are more or less the same because they are both old white guys, which is just Peak Stupid, but there you have it.

        I think someone else given the chance, like Gavin Newsom, would build a brand in time for the fall. They’d have to much free press as a consequence of being chosen and if we get someone that is a real GD fighter for Americans they’d do well, IMHO.

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    Spoken like a person who will not have to live long under the consequences of that hubris, and whose family wealth will insulate their offspring.

    I’m gonna vote for you, Biden, but your personal “peace” is a shitty umbrella the rest of us don’t get to live under.

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    I wonder if he’ll feel that way when he’s put on trial on live television and sentenced to death. Or, if that doesn’t happen, if he’ll feel that way when millions of minorities are killed by trumps brown shirt equivalents or sent to camps to die. Course, he’ll probably be dead by the time everything comes to fruition even if he doesn’t get sentenced to death cause he’s so old.

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      That’s self-interest, not self-actualization. Part of self-actualizing is realizing you aren’t the center of the universe.

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        He’s either REALLY bad with money or have a lot of it stashed away somewhere.

        An ambitious politician from Pennsylvania doesn’t just move to tiny Delaware unless the fact that it’s the most corporation-friendly of all the states has something to do with it.

        " If you go out and bundle $250K for me, all legal, and then you call me after I’m elected and say ‘Joe, I’d like to talk to you about something.’ I’m gonna say ‘Come on in.’ It’s human nature.”

        • Joe Biden, failing to acknowledge that legal corruption is still corruption.
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    Goddammit. Way to really inspire confidence and the need to make the future better.

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      I think there is a double-message here.

      It’s resetting the spirit of democracy.

      Because the other guy, the lunatic one, says “IF I LOSE, THE WHOLE THING WAS RIGGED!!! BLOODBATH!!!”

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    If he doesn’t use his brand new immunity powers to have the military remove his opposition then he hasn’t “given it his all”.

    And you know if Trump gets in power he’s going to doing exactly that to his adversaries.