• @grudan
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      Washington surprises me. AFAIK full nudity is legal in Seattle.

  • @[email protected]
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    357 hours ago

    We need to switch from our current American view that all nudity is sexual. If you see a someone naked doesn’t automatically make it sexual!

    • @[email protected]
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      12 hours ago

      People need to spend a little time at a nudist resort. They’d learn real quick that naked isn’t sexual.

    • soapyplasm
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      I agree. There’s such shame and disgust around the work of art that is the human body that really needs to be worked on.

  • Cyrus Draegur
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    YES
    END THE HYPOCRISY
    👏 FORCE
    👏 MEN
    👏 TO
    👏 WEAR
    👏 SHIRTS!

    ^^^apologies, i should have appended an ‘/s’^^^

    • @[email protected]
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      135 hours ago

      I mean…I have self body issues. I wear a hoodie in the summer when it’s nearly 100F.

      But I was thinking we go the other way on this. Ladies, just because I’M ashamed of my body, and cover up, doesn’t mean YOU need to! Let the girls get some air!

    • Da Bald Eagul
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      207 hours ago

      Heck nah, free the tiddy. I’m transitioning and I wanna be able to show off what I’ve grown when I’m able haha

      Also just like, can we all stop making everything sexual and let peoples bodies exist. Instead of hiding everything and making ourselves feel ashamed of our bodies

      • southsamurai
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        124 hours ago

        Free them tiddies!

        On a serious note, while I’ve always believed that boobs aren’t inherently sexual, years of bathing people has extended that to all nudity.

        Once you get used to seeing people naked all the time, nudity by itself ceases to be sexual. There has to be intent to the nudity to matter.

        And it isn’t like I didn’t bathe attractive boobs and vag (that being what I’m attracted to personally, I’m not into guys), I did. Plenty of them, surprisingly, what with accidents and illnesses being involved (you’d think that illness and injury would reduce the attractiveness overall, what with part of attractiveness being signs of health). Even in nursing homes, there were enough attractive bodies that most people would be surprised.

        But it wasn’t sexual at all. Well, not for me anyway, some of the patients had moments.

        It’s just skin.

        The flip side of that is that after a while, I just got annoyed at people doing the usual “old people gross” bullshit. No, they aren’t, they’re just old. Age, disability, none of it makes someone’s body unpleasant inherently. Tbh, there’s beauty in all of it after I got past the initial dissonance with nudity in general. That “I’m not supposed to be seeing this” that we get drilled into us.

  • @[email protected]
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    708 hours ago

    Also legal in Ontario, Canada. A woman was arrested for walking around topless in hot weather. She was finned by police but topless men in the area were not. Ontario courts eventually rulled this was discriminatory but the provincial government did not appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada so the ruling only applies in Ontario.

    • @[email protected]
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      33 hours ago

      Happy about this. A scant few hours ago I had an over the fence conversation with my neighbor and neither of us were wearing shirts. It’s the ideal way to live.

    • @[email protected]
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      318 hours ago

      Yeah despite there being a law against discrimination, the cops are obviously going to use their subjective view of things like lewd behaviour to charge topless women where they wouldn’t men.

      • @[email protected]
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        218 hours ago

        That’s literally the law Ontario courts rulled cannot apply to topless women as it is discrimination.

        On July 19, 1991, a sweltering and humid day, Gwen Jacob, a University of Guelph student, was arrested after walking down a street in Guelph, Ontario while topless after removing her shirt when the temperature was 33 °C (91 °F) and was charged with indecency under Section 173(1)(a) of the Criminal Code

    • @[email protected]
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      167 hours ago

      Take Oklahoma off your list because in Tulsa they will still arrest any woman who does this. Apparently they refuse to follow that law that was passed.

      I know because the city made big fucking stink about it when Tulsa women started to go topless when it was found to be legal. So they passed and ordinance making it illegal within city limits at public spaces so practically everywhere.

  • @[email protected]
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    5910 hours ago

    Equal protection clause. Any law that imposes itself on women and not men should be unconstitutional.

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    • @[email protected]
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      86 hours ago

      Should, but laws outlawing toplessness are almost always upheld by the courts, unfortunately.

      “Protecting the public sensibilities from the public display of areas of the body traditionally viewed as erogenous zones — including female, but not male, breasts — is an important government objective.”

  • @[email protected]
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    Same goes for NY.

    I know this because at the college I worked at, a city public safety officer walked up to a young man who was sunbathing on campus thinking it was a woman, and told him to put his shirt back on or be charged with indecency or something. The school was outraged and had a shirtless demonstration march around town.

    Did a I mention it was an all girls school?

    • 🐍🩶🐢
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      Eh? I have definitely gone around topless in NY a couple times and wasn’t bothered over it. To be fair, it was Pride. To be extra fair, it was almost 100 and everybody was dying. I do remember a couple times on the news where they would have to remind the police in NYS that it is legal on a couple roasting summers. I am definitely not the best at keeping the bits well covered in general. Still far better up here than when I used to live in Texas.

      • Marighost
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        25 hours ago

        You guys stumbled upon Raëlism! A cult that originated in France. I have firsthand experience. I met a “Raelian Guide” at a convention and gave a presentation on his religion. They mention the topless stuff, and they’re also anti-genital mutilation. But they also wish to reclaim the Swastika as a symbol of peace and love.

        During this presentation, the guide, in talking about reclaiming the Swastika, "it was traditionally a symbol of peace and love, but you all wouldn’t learn about that in our Jewish controlled education system. " (Word for word what he said in front of 100~ people)

        They’re, uhh, Nazis.

      • davel [he/him]
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        2610 hours ago

        The religion behind this site seems kind of strange.

        Extraterrestrials Created All Life On Earth

        Let’s Build An Embassy To Welcome Them

        • vovoOP
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          Thats a more plausible explanation than what the big religions offer.

          • @[email protected]
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            I like to think life crashed onto earth innitially from an astroid. Then life evolved from single cell organisms into…this.

            Coincidently enough, life crashing onto earth on an astroid is exactly what the black suit symbiot was in the spiderman comics. After Spiderman got rid of it, it bonded with Eddie Brock to form Venom!

  • @[email protected]
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    In Washington state, you can just be nude. As long as you are not doing anything to be “obscene”.

      • VindictiveJudge
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        8912 hours ago

        This is, in fact, what makes Portland’s annual naked bike ride event possible.

        • @[email protected]
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          168 hours ago

          Yes, Portland had decriminalized public nudity if participating in a peaceful protest, while not engaging in sexual conduct, and away from certain restricted areas like parks and schools. The annual naked bike ride is an organized peaceful protest that chooses its route appropriately as to not encroach on any areas where public nudity would otherwise be prohibited.

    • vovoOP
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      68 hours ago

      Where is that? I think women often don’t walk around topless because men sexualize them or take photos, etc.

      • @[email protected]
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        278 hours ago

        As a woman who’s done it: it’s mostly just awkward. I don’t go topless unless it’s an occasion warranting it or it’s way too damn hot to wear a shirt. The men don’t help for certain, but there’s just also the element of being the only shirtless woman around

      • @[email protected]
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        67 hours ago

        Could be anywhere, it’s legal in a lot of the US but nobody partakes because it draws unwanted attention.

        • @[email protected]
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          Which is how it SHOULD be viewed! If you’re going to be intentionally sexy in a public place, you should expect people to notice. I don’t walk down the street with my balls hanging out of my pants…well, unless I’m single.

          • @[email protected]
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            55 hours ago

            Being shirtless isn’t being sexy is just being shirtless, not the same as balls, and thinking that your balls would help you not being single is…weird

            • @[email protected]
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              You just admitted that balls are sexy. How WOULDN’T they help me not be single?

              Fetticini

              Linguini

              Bikini

              Martini

              You’re gonna love my nuts!

    • @[email protected]
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      It’s really just free the nipple, which highlights how ridiculous it is. Even more so when you see images where male nipples have been pasted over female nipples, which would theoretically make those images ok.

      • @[email protected]
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        I’m getting flashbacks to Tumblr’s “female-presenting nipples” censorship rules during the porn ban.

    • @[email protected]
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      Most businesses will turn away anyone shirtless, especially where health code violations come into play.

      • @[email protected]
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        35 hours ago

        Which is fair. There’s a difference between walking down the street topless and being inside a resteraunt.

      • @[email protected]
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        108 hours ago

        Yeah I’ve gone topless in cities where it’s legal before and you just need to bring a shirt if you plan on eating

        • Captain Aggravated
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          Are tits really that unsanitary that you’re going to infect a restaurant topless? I’ve got nipples, and I think they’re cleaner than my hands because I didn’t touch the door handle with my pecs.

          • @emzili
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            It’s something you wouldn’t have a problem with until you sat down in a booth and suddenly your back is covered in some shirtless person’s sweat.

    • vovoOP
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      118 hours ago

      If they allow it for men they might have to allow it for everybody.

          • @[email protected]
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            Yes, but the nuance of the situation is selective enforcement.

            Luckily, many of these explicitly allowed areas are resultant of lawsuits so there is precedent for those discriminated against.

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    AFAIK anyone can go fully nude in most public spaces in Germany. It’s actually kind of weirder to not allow it and carve out arbitrary exceptions if you think about it.