i’m sure everyone can be normal about this post yes?

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Some of you are literally watching the right wing continuously try to expand the definition of “pedophilia” to include “existing around a child while queer,” and then agreeing with them when they say pedophiles deserve to be summarily executed.

Not only does this place innocent people in danger of political executions, it also puts children in danger, as most children who are sexually abused have this done by someone close to them, and feelings that they would be responsible for the death of their abuser if they reported leads to lower rates of reporting. It also leads to higher rates of abusers murdering their victims when they’re found out because the punishment will be the same anyway.

Part of being on the left is realizing that it’s better to let 100 guilty men go free than to wrongly convict one. Another part of being on the left is realizing that one’s life is never something others have the right to take away- even the most evil people alive. Yes, that includes mass murderers and rapists and pedophiles. Once you make one group acceptable to kill, you give others a vested interest in defining groups they have prejudice against into that group.

You have to start dealing with the fact that no crime makes one’s life forfeit. Not even the worst most depraved and sadistic acts. The worst people alive have rights, and if you can’t accept that they deserve them, at least try to accept that it is to your benefit that they retain rights no matter what they’re accused of. And if you can’t do even that, well… you just might be the kind of person who would cut off your nose to spite your face.

If you want to protect victims, if you want to protect minority groups, you have to realize that sex crimes, or any crimes at all, do not deserve the death penalty. Period.

brettdoesdiscourse replies:
When a certain kind of person “deserves” to die, bigots will make sure marginalized groups all are that kind of person.

little-gay-dowitcher replies:
My former neighbors were the “kill all pedos” type. They were also incredibly transphobic. And I was visibly queer. So guess who got stalked, harassed and threatened all throughout the brief period of time they babysat for their friend?

Stop enabling fascists. They’ve already proven they’re willing to attack minorities for no reason. Don’t give them a chance to excuse it.

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    1 month ago

    You have to start dealing with the fact that no crime makes one’s life forfeit

    What about fascists? Shouldn’t their lives be forfeit? :3

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      Who decides which “fascists” deserve to die in this scenario? Are you specifically targeting actual self proclaimed fascist world leaders, or just anyone you disagree with who you feel “seems like a fascist”?

      For your scenario to work you would have to elect someone who could dictate who deserves to die. That would be giving this “dictator” full unquestioned power over life and death… You see how quickly this all falls apart right?

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        I meant this somewhat tongue-in-cheek. Like you say, there is no valid scenario in which someone/a government could cast judgement on who is/isn’t a fascist. However those on the far-right who insist on eroding democracy are blind to reason and are beyond saving. Say a civil war were to arise, those who self-align themselves with the fascists I believe would then be fair game for destruction.

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      The death penalty should be reserved for people who absolutely will continue to commit great crimes (e.g. murder) even after they’re imprisoned. Example: A crime boss that issues orders to have people murdered via visits from their lawyer.

      Someone like that–even from within prison–has too much of a negative impact on society to be allowed to live. You can’t take away their basic rights (like the right to a lawyer) so the most humane thing to do would be to end them as peacefully as possible. Otherwise you’re going to allow them to continue committing crimes, racking up victims, and degrading society as a whole.

      A convicted pedophile rapist will be incapable of committing that same sort of crime as long as they are imprisoned. Hence it’s not necessary to execute them.

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        1 month ago

        Sure, the text states ‘no crime makes one’s life forfeit’, and I read that quite clearly, but I’m proposing an exception to this rule when it comes to fascists ^.~ It’s a little joke