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        Yeah we already know he thinks nukes are not for deterrence, they’re for using. The fucker suggested using one on bad weather. It’s a real concern. Thing is, it’s trump we gotta worry about right now, but if he doesn’t get elected the right wing will find themselves another trump and that one will probably be smarter. Would be hard to be dumber. Scary shit.

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          If he wins, China and Russia will take whatever opportunities they can. Taiwan will defend itself, likely better than anyone expects. Russia may try nuking Ukraine or Europe. Ukraine will likely build nukes. Israel may nuke Iran, Egypt, Lebanon, etc. North Korea might light off a few just to try and look cool next to the big kids. Who knows about India and Pakistan. And we’ve got like a third of the USA clamoring for Civil War 2.

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            I’m gonna try to work though your comment in the order you wrote it. I agree with the first bit. About China and Russia taking the piss… Though I’m not sure about China, they might play the long game. I think Taiwan would be tricky in lots of ways. I think China won’t move on Taiwan until the rest of the world is looking elsewhere. I don’t think Russia will try to nuke Europe or Ukraine in the next few years. But I could be wrong, Russia isn’t something I’d want to bet on either way. They’re certainly snidey and aggressive. Yeah, Israel and Iran is a fuckin dangerous hotspot. Don’t like that at all. North Korea, I dunno I would have said a year ago that they all gob and no knob, but I don’t like how they getting snuggly with Russia. NK soldiers are going to Ukraine if they not already there. Hopefully India and Pakistan can chill the fuck out about Kashmir. But I don’t know how close to boiling point they are. Yeah, I’m not American but the impression I get from social media and mates there is that you’re about right, a whole proportion of the population is kinda fucky. And another trump presidency could be extremely harmful. And trump is a symptom of a problem with America, he could croak tomorrow and the danger would remain - because of that third of the USA population you referred to.

            Plus there’s non-state actors to worry about.

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              Honestly, I think a lot of this will cool off in a big way when he croaks, even him in prison would help. Just him losing will be a great thing. And I don’t believe for a second that MAGA will ever find anybody else who can pull their strings so well. They don’t have the skill, the popularity, or the back-assward charisma. Plus they’re all a bunch of sociopaths in it for themselves. Their cooperation is a matter only of convenience. They’re constantly backstabbing and they cannot change.

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                There is one though. Maybe 2. Abbot is not liked enough. But Desantis will check all the boxes. He threw his hat in the race when he said he would pardon all of Trump’s charges if became president… Knowing the president cannot pardon state charges. Likely meaning he supports Project 2025 in the that federal courts can force state charges into federal courts so the president can pardon them. Being that he is the only governor that I have ever known to create election police, and since he has used them to knock on peoples doors to intimidate people for signing petitions that go against his wishes… It would be hard to put much past him.

                There are people watching him use their taxes to undermine their voting privileges, and supporting it.

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    You don’t deserve the kind of generals Hitler had. That’s why you have JD Vance and Elon Musk.

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      Germany mainly lost by losing the economics and resources games. A secondary factor was when Hitler started taking over strategic and tactical planning from the generals.

      My take on the generals themselves is that they were at least not terrible.

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          Blitzkrieg was like the American football play of the same name. If you don’t win real fast, you tend to find out that your motorized units are beyond reach of your supply lines. Then they get cut off, and the whole thing can collapse rapidly.

          The Ardennes offensive was pulled off in 72 hours by using the powers of methamphetamine. Seriously, the German army issued a lot of meth to the troops. Imagine what would happen to the combat effectiveness if they had to keep fighting at that pace for a while.

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          This was a serious mistake, yes. And Barbarossa was another serious mistake.

          But I think that Germany was still destined to lose the war anyway, because they were running out of oil and getting out manufactured. And the United States was going to find a way to enter the European theater one way or another.

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          By then, the Battle of Moscow already had winter blizzards setting in, and Germany would be pushed back within a month and start losing from then on. The British had already tossed the Luftwaffe into a wood chipper through the Battle of Britain. The Bismark had been sunk, and that signaled that Plan Z, a plan for building a German surface fleet that could challenge the Royal Navy, was crumpled up and thrown in the toilet.

          It may not have been obvious at the time, but in hindsight, Germany was already set to lose. The only question was how and when. Maybe Russia overruns all of Germany and then effectively controls France. Maybe there’s a negotiated peace before that happens. In any case, Germany was going to come out worse than it went in.

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        Well they were probably too loyal to their idiot Fuhrer. Methinks it’s the loyalty part that Trump wants.

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          The generals tried to overthrow or assassinate him on multiple occasions. The most famous one is the plot for the movie “Valkyrie”.

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            Some generals tried this. Other generals just kind of tried to survive and fight for their country. Still other generals were ideologically Nazis and they fought for the cause.

            Like anything in the real world, it’s a mixed bag.

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        Dont understand why you get downvoted, as I assume you mean that the generals wrwe not strategical and tactical terrible. Think most historians will agree that Hitlers direct involvement in the war was a growing issue in conducting the war. Also Hitler stayed in power by making sure that the levels below him were at each others throats and not able to challenge him directly. Nazi Germany was not technically on a war economy until Speer took over, and the amount of corruption was immens.

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          Think most historians will agree that Hitlers direct involvement in the war was a growing issue in conducting the war.

          This part has been revisited in the decades since the end of the Cold War. The problem was that most western sources were either written by the Allies or were from German generals who survived. In a repudiation of “history is written by the victors” (a phrase that should be expunged in general), almost everything known about the eastern front came from the German side of the story.

          Those generals tended to point fingers at Hitler. Everything would have been dandy if they were the ones in charge.

          Then the Cold War ends, and there’s a flood of new information from the Russian side of things. Western historians start going over the new information, and some new conclusions start to come out. Hitler did fuck a lot of things up personally, but those German generals were full of shit in other ways.

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        Economic and resources problems are part in parcel with a despot with a desire for absolute loyalty.

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      I expect he is a slow reader. He may not have gotten to that part of the book yet.

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          Maybe he has good associations with that word because when he said lo mein at a Chinese restaurant a plate of greasy noodles arrived

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            Reminds me of the theory explaining why he say other countries are emptying their “insane asylums”.

            He was told immigrants are seeking asylum, has zero clue what that means, and determined that it meant countries are emptying mental hospitals and sending their patients to the US.

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            I fucking hate that things are so fucked that I actually took a second to evaluate that. In ANY other context I would giggle and move on.

            Well done. I hate this timeline

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      Pretty sure he would consider murdering millions of Mexicans as a win, even if it ends with a bullet to his temple.

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        Ya know I realise this is complete conspiracy theory. However, I’m still willing to give a 2-5% chance that if Trump gets back into power, within the last 12-18 months of his presidency he’ll declare a special operation into North Mexico to ‘secure the border’, ‘stop the illegal immigrants’ and ‘remove the drug cartels’.

        Then he’ll claim it’s too dangerous to hold the election, or not appropriate, or whatever excuse because of the special operation. And then he’ll postpone the election with the approval of the SC as a presidential duty and therefore not illegal.

        And I know this is insane but every time I ask myself “would trump attempt something like this?” The answer is always “yes”

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    Personally none of the things this article says surprise me. But unfortunately, the author doesn’t seem to provide any sources for Trumps statements, only the denials of those statements. Idk if people are just scared and want to remain anonymous or what but it loses integrity when people refuse to identify themselves or rather when A reporters article doesn’t have sources like this.

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      Idk if people are just scared and want to remain anonymous or what but it loses integrity when people refuse to identify themselves

      Better than someone losing their life for not remaining anonymous IMO.

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      Not because they disagreed with him morally or anything of course. They just thought that they could do a better job.

      Tbf, British high command agreed that the potential replacements, which included his best generals, would have been better at leading the nazis. They also realised hitler would kill them all when he found out.

      Still, shame they found out though hey?

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        Even if they didn’t agree morally they certainly took part in it. Killed in his name and in his vision.

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    His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.

    https://phdn.org/archives/www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/documents/osssection3pt1.htm

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      It’s Cluster B. Alternative reality. Never to blame. They almost need enemies to work on to be themselves. Gaslight or verbally abuse those in disagreement lest your private reality break. No empathy. Chases power over scenarios.

      We’re living inside the reality of a mental illness. And because it goes to the highest office, the fuckery is exponentially more.

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      This literally the “israeli” government. Yet we see the Democrats administration, willing to defend that. If the US government in principle is happy supporting a Nazi government; i feel that it reflects well having 2/3 of the population being happy with a Nazi government themselves.

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        Wow so edgy and original!

        Never heard a Hamas propagandist say “actually Israel is nazi” before!

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          No one is for Hamas, but if you are pro Israels government right now, you are pro genocide, and there is no evidence anywhere that shows otherwise. Mother’s complaining their kids have PTSD from driving military equipment threw hundreds of women and children… And somehow claiming the women and children are terrorists… With zero evidence other than they existed in the area that was invaded.

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            Nah, I’m against massacring villages which is what Hamas did. You seem to be on their side (or you at least look the other way when they commit atorcities) so you’re pro genocide. But that’s what fascist do, right? Accuse your enemies of that which you’re guilty of. Nothing you’re saying is all that original.

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          First time for everything! Crazy to think it’s true, but here we are in this brave new world

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          If you look into the war at all… He’s not wrong. Israel is no better then Russia right now.

          Edit… Actually probably worse, because where Russia has failed to advance further… Israel has not.

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        The Israeli government is being fascist, and has been for a long time. Thank you for calling it out. Sad to see the down votes because Palestinians have been locked in Israel’s cage with no freedom for decades, and Lebanon is next. Hopefully society starts to shift in its outlook and complicity.

        You hit the nail on the head too. So many people cannot support Democrats during this election because although they call for freedom and justice, they also call for arms transfers and no repurcussions for Netanyahu countlessly dissolving freedom and justice for Palestinians.

        Voting for Democrats, unfortunately, boils down to “rights for me, not for thee”, and the only difference between that sentiment and what you might find in Conservatives is that Democrats hold that distinction between all Americans and those from other countries. Conservatives hold that between different groups of Americans.

        Really sours any hope I had for Kamala overtaking Biden

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          Israel gov is apartheid and fascist. Still, we exist in the world, and someone will be elected president of the United States. A person here can either vote strategically, or they can abstain and potentially help the worst option win.

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            Oh I will always tell people to not vote for Trump. There is doing damage to our international reputation as the leader of the free world, and then there is complete and utter dismantling and destruction of the free world, us included.

            I will vote and it won’t be Trump, but I also want Democrats to earn my vote. The cognitive dissonance has to stop.

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              We’re out of time. At least for president, there are no other viable candidates for this cycle. Down ballot, you should be researching your candidates thoroughly.

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          Trump and so many of his zionist first supporters have backed Trump specifically because of “rising anti semitism” in US. University protests against genocide should have been handled like Kent State, to them. Biden/Blinken have been ineffective in getting ceasefires, possibly intentionally ineffective. But that is partly because Netanyahu prefers Trump, and Trump promises to fully support “finishing the job of genocide”. It’s unfair to critizide Dems for Israel, when US is bipartisanly Israel first political/state rule.

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            The US is bipartisan when it comes to Israeli support because Democrats haven’t broken from that bipartisan tradition.

            Once Democrats do, it is no longer bipartisan.

            I don’t expect Conservatives to do this given what you’ve said, so Democrats foot the bill.

            Biden has in fact already called for the cease of arms transfers, but that policy goes into effect after the election finishes. If Biden can call for it after the election, he can call for it today.

            There is no reason why the Commander in Chief cannot outlaw the transfer of weapons and ammunition to Israel. We’ve already broken one of our laws that prevents this.

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              University protests against genocide should have been handled like Kent State, to them.

              Their syntax is wonky, but they’re saying Trump’s supporters would have liked the protests handled like Kent State.