• Antiproton
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    6 hours ago

    Science doesn’t change just because some groups try to use it to forward an agenda.

    • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
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      ignoring the other examples you’ve been given: it absolutely does even when it goes well. The scientific method is literally based on “other people must change and refine this, one person’s work is not immutable nor should be taken as gospel”

      Also what science is has changed. Science used to be natural philosophy and thus was combined with other non-scientific (to us) disciplines. Social sciences have only been around 200 years tops.

      Some would debate that applied mathematics is science, others would say all sociology isn’t science.

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      But it does. Cigarettes were healthy and climate change didn’t exist 50 years ago

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        There was never any science saying “cigarettes are healthy”.

      • Leviathan@lemmy.world
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        Neither of those things were backed by science. Confusing convincing lobbying with science is a problem today was it was then.

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        I mean those things didn’t change, it was just about how research was manipulated by money and human biases.

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          Yes but science is a process, not a thing, and that process is corruptible.

          There is a differentiation between the natural world for how it’s made and the human process that quantifies that knowledge.

          Science has always changed, just like human culture did

        • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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          The truth doesn’t change. Scientific consensus does. Scientific consensus has been wrong on countless things. After all, science is about getting things a little less wrong every time.