• Pup Biru@aussie.zone
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    8 hours ago

    anyone that did not vote kamala is now in part responsible for the inevitable increased suffering that will occur in palestine, lebanon, iran, and ukraine

    it really is that simple

    • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
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      4 hours ago

      Increased suffering?
      How can their suffering be increased more than it is now?

      Israel is already getting everything could have ever wished for. There is nothing trump could do to make that worse.

      There were other reasons to vote for Harris, but this wasn’t one.

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      5 hours ago

      Not a USAmerican, but by that logic:
      Are Kamala, her party and her supporters who couldn’t get those people to vote for Kamala also responsible for the increased suffering?

      Are they responsible for the people not being convinced that the suffering would be lesser under Kamala?

      Did Kamala and party show significant effort and good faith to woo those people?
      Or was it the 99% Hitler vs 100% Hitler thing? Asking since most online discourse I saw on it here in lemmy was like that, where they’re saying Trump would be worse, instead of saying that Kamala would be better, de-escalate stuff etc.

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        3 hours ago

        Yes, they are morally culpable too. Even more so than the people who refused to vote for them.

        That’s the thing about ethics when you actually apply it in reality; someone else being wrong doesn’t mean you’re right.

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          1 hour ago

          If that’s how they place the blame, then that’d be cool.

          But other than that, in reality, it lilely seems to become a blame game, where they don’t want to look at why they lost the trust of the folk who they are blaming.

          Though, I’m just seeing online interactions. Maybe offline interactions ae much more decent and useful.