It’s even worse than being uninformed, it’s being purposely misinformed, by politicians who have trained large parts of the public to ignore facts and listen to them instead. I need to go re-read 1984 while I still can.
Yeah, wilful ignorance is far worse than plan old ignorance.
By politicians who have trained large parts of the public to ignore facts and listen to them instead
I would argue that particular surrogacy was handled by religion in the US, especially fundamentalist evangelicalism.
For religions of this kind, belief without evidence, and especially contrary to evidence, is virtuous, the purest form of devotion — blessed is he who believes without seeing — and it’s not a big leap from spiritual authority to political.
Politicians didn’t have to do any training, unfortunately. We trained ourselves.
Edit: made exception for mindfulness religions, my apologies
I know a very intelligent, analytical, freedom loving Republican. With every conversation, I’m more shocked he’s not a hard-lined Democrat. He’s not into the conspiracies or anything. It’s just that everything is a bit skewed.
“I don’t think he’s saying that.”
“Most Democrats agree.”
“I just assume most politicians are like that.”
“I support that, but I think states should be deciding that.”
I’m like he is saying that, the Dems on Fox agree, assuming just gives a pass to offenders, and “state rights” has always just been an excuse to oppress without federal protections.
He also listens to right-wing people he disagrees with because sometimes they make a good point. In other words, he knows they’re being dishonest, but sometimes he can rationalize what they say. It’s willful ignorance.
Yeah I’ve met several people like this. I’ve yet to figure a good general understanding of why this happens, but I think as a first step, people need to have much more humility about their own intelligence. No one is immune to the standard cognitive biases
“But I didn’t know about that!”
Re: Virtually any topic which has multiple news sources explaining it in their texts, from myself.
Tyranny of the uninformed? No, you can’t have democracy when the voters are uninformed. This has been a decades long attack on democracy via our education system by bad actors within our own governments, States and Federal. As always, The Hill has missed the mark completely and decides to double down on the blame game. Sanders was right, even if Kamala did have a plan for many things and Trump obviously has none. Its been obvious for a while now that the common people are upset with the status quo. The uneducated have been primed to elect a dictator purposefully.
There’s no easy fix for this
You can start by being honest and transparent.
This is only a misinformation problem because there is a trust problem.
There is only a trust problem because of a long history of repeatedly breaking that trust.
The absolutely last thing you want is for regulation to limit speech of the influencers. You want to give them no reason to think there is foul play. You have to fight it with the truth.
Remove corporations’ and political parties’ right to privacy. Privacy is for humans. Everything else goes on a public ledger.
Make all scientific publications public and free forever. Science should not be paywalled.
Always mark (not remove) misinformation and enforce a notification system on all platforms to users who saw content that later turned out to be misinformation. Always provide evidence for why it was misinformation. Make reading the misinformation notifications mandatory to keep your social media account.
Yeah this opinion piece is 180 degrees orthogonal to reality. In its content, every accusation is an addition.
“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” he said. That’s a pretty patronizing take for someone who claims to be a champion of workers.
The whole article reads like Blue MAGA fan fiction.
Yeah the libs are going full tankie. I lol’d hard at this section:
It’s infantilizing to assume, as Sanders does, that the working-class voters he champions aren’t or shouldn’t be interested in things like America’s democratic traditions. America’s founders were largely self-educated farmers and tradespeople. George Washington had almost no formal education at all.
What’s actually “infantilizing” is promoting a rapist slaver as a positive example of “America’s democratic traditions”.
Real gross article overall.
And look at the downvote to upvote ratio’s on these comments. Kind-of a gross community here too.
The article is effectively arguing that the left didn’t cheer-lead hard enough, and its voters fault for wanting more from a candidate. And a significant portion of Lemmy drank the kool-aid and believed the exact same thing. Quite literally from the head down, moderation on this platform editorialized the front page with decisions unsupported by the posted rules of subs to skew the presentation of information in specific directions. Subs like c/PolticalMemes and c/News were crafted into echo chambers to support moderation biases. And its not a unique thing happening on Lemmy. The same things happened Reddit and other social media platforms, and mainstream media platforms. Its effect was to severely hurt the campaign because shielded them from the legitimate criticisms that they needed to be hearing. And when their staffers go in and check on social media and only see cheer-leading, this colors their impression of how things are going.
The fact is you can’t abuse people into adopting your position. If you want to actually convince people of something you need to meet them where they are and address their concerns on their ground, within the context of their frame of reference. There are some deeply toxic members of this community and media writ large who skated by the previous 9 months using the ban hammer/ exclusionary practices to sculpt some very popular communities and platforms into echo chambers of their own design. And it has blown up in theirs, and all of our faces.
And look at the downvote to upvote ratio’s on these comments. Kind-of a gross community here too.
Please by all means. Leave. You won’t be missed one bit. You do realize with one exception. You’re the only one here with a heavy downvote ratio. Perhaps there’s a reason behind that? Perhaps it’s something you yourself did. Perhaps you were the one being “gross” and immature. Like you always do. Perhaps it’s because you can’t help but resort to name calling. That you never have anything constructive or helpful to offer, ever.
Seriously, why are you here? Why aren’t you over with the brain-trust on hexbear. They have a larger politics community there even. You could be among your peers. Childish accelerationist with no actual insight or solutions. Throwing your shoulders out patting each other on the back. For sewing misinformation and division to help get a fascist elected. You call people blue maga as a slur. But coming from someone like you. It’s a badge of honor. Better to try to show solidarity to stand against an actual fascist. Than be a childish closed minded ideolog.
Please by all means. Leave.
Why would I leave my house? You the rest of the rotating sequences of alts and sock-puppets are the tourists. And more importantly, you were wrong.
Blue MAGA was wrong. When Whoopi Goldberg said she’d vote for a pants-shitter, that hurt the Democrats, and she was wrong. When Blue MAGA, here, relentlessly abused independents and people on the fence who were struggling voting for a candidate that supported genocide, that hurt the Democrats and lost them votes. If your goal in how you approached this issue was to get the Democrat elected, you were told, in advance, that the approach you were using not only wasn’t working, but was actually counter-productive: and you belligerently continued knowing that you were doing harm.
So it begs the question: Did you ever actually care about the election, or were you just here for the abuse?
Your house hmm? Then why were you crying. Turn down your projection son.
Crying? The projection is yours child. I’m just putting the toxic cult which just got Trump elected on blast. I’m putting down a record so it can’t be said that these delusional, abusive, narcissistic cultists were in a vacuum. They knew what they were doing and were told at the time of the consequences it would have.
They need to be identified, named, shamed, and ignored. They were wildly off-base with regards to was going to win Democrats the election, them cover led to maybe the most significant Democratic defeat of all time.
You’re so precious. Toxic but precious.
180° wouldn’t be orthogonal…
We are talking about errors of perception measured by orders of magnitude.
Far too many are ignorant, even intentionally so, rather than uninformed.
you are obviously ignorant about the meaning of the word ignorant, you should check it out 😆
This was a clear choice between a candidate who pledged to defend America’s founding values, democracy and the rule of law
lol whatever libs. Even if this were true, the “rule of law” and “america’s founding (slaver) values” are both trash.
This kind of delusional condescension is a primary reason why libs were blown out.
The toxic down voting is coming from the same cult who lost the election for us.
Name, shame, and ignore Blue MAGA.
