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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau opposed any deal letting Russia keep Ukrainian land, saying it would encourage other countries to break international rules.

Speaking to a NATO meeting, he highlighted Canada’s $19.5 billion aid to Ukraine and stressed the need to defend global stability.

Trudeau defended his plan to raise military spending to 2% of GDP by 2032 after criticism of Canada’s low defense funding.

He warned against isolating Ukraine, saying continued support is crucial to stop further global conflicts.

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    2 hours ago

    Trudeau is spot on and Canada should ask the Blue States if they would like to be annexed.

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    1 hour ago

    20 billion

    Man, I’m jealous.

    His country has universal health care and isn’t wasting trillions a year policing the world like we are.

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      1 hour ago

      Our healthcare system has been deteriorating over the last 5-8 years now though with many healthcare professionals leaving the force for higher paying US opportunities. It’s lead to an annoying experience out here for anyone younger than 40 seeking healthcare.

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    2 hours ago

    How about not allowing the US puppet government to continue slaughtering ethnic Russians? Prevent the US from arming the Nazis in Ukraine, and there’s no need for Russia in Ukraine.

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    10 hours ago

    Raise the military spend now. Stop kicking the can. We’ve helped, sure, but we need to do more.

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      8 hours ago

      Agree 100% we can’t rely on our rich bi-polar brother in the methlab of a house next door to protect us anymore.

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        3 hours ago

        Canada’s expenditure as a % of gdp according to your own source is pretty weak already. Insisting on having no military spending is hardly a real argument. Also, Canada has a very real stake in ensuring russia doesn’t succeed given those coveted waters you guys have along the northern territories.

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        5 hours ago

        Only works if your adversaries also cut military spending. Unfortunately countries like Russia have shown that they’ll happily attack those unable to defend themselves. This also means that increased military spending can cause less war if it deters those who would otherwise attack.

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          Only works if your adversaries also cut military spending.

          Usa and nato spend 10 times more than what russia does. Open the link and do the math yourself. They have no good excuse to raise the military budget even according to your logic.

          Unfortunately countries like Russia have shown that they’ll happily attack those unable to defend themselves.

          Go check the history of your country, every authoritarian nation will try to do that. Raising military spending does not make people more secure, it only increase rulers and government power. Wars are fought by people not money.

          This also means that increased military spending can cause less war if it deters those who would otherwise attack.

          Spending more on war will get you more war. You can see it happening right now in ukraine and middle east.

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    7 hours ago

    I agree. I hope Ukrainians abroad step up and go back to defend their country. Working in the technology industry I know there are many Ukrainian men who have left and hold jobs at technology companies. It’s time to go back and fight.

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      4 hours ago

      I’m not sure that the best way for a software developer to support the war effort is by carrying a gun.

      Hopefully if they support the defense of Ukraine, they find a way to support the Defence of Ukraine. I’m hesitant to prescribe the best way to do that.

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        2 hours ago

        Someone posted an image of a squad of Ukrainian soldiers overlayed with their pre-war civilian jobs. They were all in tech, software engineers, data science, etc, etc.

        If they have some special skills creating missile or drone software, or in cyber warfare — sure they can fight that way. But, it sounds like the front line needs reinforcements badly and these guys ought to at least step up for their country instead of hiding out abroad.

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        There are certainly tech focused positions in any modern military, but yeah, the front lines are probably not the best place for a software developer with probably no military training.

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    11 hours ago

    2/3rds of Ukrainians want the same. They just need the help to resist the Russian invasion.

    Poll data was part of Perun’s latest video on the latest developments of the war and what the turning point will be:

    https://youtu.be/vf2vSoWsmgI (0:50:38)

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        10 hours ago

        getting 2/3 of anyone to agree on anything is hard enough when you’re not dealing with 40 million people, all of whom have direct consequences of the outcome of the decision. you’re gonna have a few deluded souls who’ve allowed themselves to think russia (lowercase intentional) is their ally, but you’re also going to have people who think the best thing to do is ceasefire now and find a better path in the future. i’d estimate there’s around one perpective on this war per ukrainian citizen, and so “should we retain our boundaries when this is over” is just one way of getting a cross sectional view of those perspectives

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          With the war this long, I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a segment of the Ukrainian population that says, “Let’s just end this. If that means we give up some land for peace, and Russia pays for it, it’s worth the lives saved.”

          I’ve been reading a lot about the US revolutionary war and there were definitely those who wanted an end to hostilities even if it meant returning to the crown.

          I’m not saying it’s right because we all know Russia would absolutely invade again. But it might help explain some of the 1/3 that don’t agree with not giving an inch to Russia.

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        I assume the other 3rd are “Ukrainian” in the way that they’ve been places in Ukraine by Russ, but remain loyal to Russia, not Ukraine

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          Meh. To be honest, I shouldn’t be surprised that even if your assumption is true, this was the result.

          Hell, 45 became 47

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        1/3 are probably working class people who are aware that their conditions under the ukrainian government or russian government will be the same and that war will only bring them more misery.