• DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world
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      16 hours ago

      Drafts are barbaric.

      We shouldn’t accept this shit at any age in any country.

      If we all just fucking stopped doing the dirty work of warmongers we would no longer have wars.

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          14 hours ago

          If the russian civilans followed this rule there would be no aggressors.

          Lol nvm you’re right, forcing 18 year olds to kill people against their will is totally a good guy move

          Lmao you people are brainwashed psychopaths.

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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            14 hours ago

            Russian civilians are being conscripted. As are prisoners. As are North Koreans. As are Houthis. What would your solution be, just let those armies take over Ukraine?

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              14 hours ago

              The solution is for everyone to reject war.

              Making excuses to kill like in Ukraine is not any more just than any other excuse to kill.

              If we want the US to stay in control of the world then it’s necessary to fight Russia, but it’s not necessary for amy of them to die

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                8 hours ago

                The solution is for everyone to reject war.

                Aw shucks, is that all it takes? How’d we overlook that?? We’ll get cracking on that right away.

                In the meanwhile it makes sense for a country being invaded to do whatever it can for self preservation, especially in a defensive manner.

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                14 hours ago

                The Russians are at their doorstep with guns. You can’t just sit there saying “I don’t have a fight with you” and expect them to peacefully leave. They’ve already shot your neighbours. The choice is not yours. You either fight or you die.

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                  12 hours ago

                  The choice isn’t yours when there’s a draft. If it’s so noble to die defending your state (not people, state) then it should be no problem getting enough volunteers.

                  Forcing people to fight for their government is wrong. Maybe some are ok with surrender over risking their life, maybe some are staunch pacifists, maybe some feel their lives won’t change very much under new leadership and would prefer to live.

                  Sending teens into a bloodbath by force isn’t good no matter how you try to spin it. Yes the alternative might be losing, but that is their choice.

                  You should go fight, they’re accepting foreign volunteers. You go do what you’re asking these children to do. It’s the right thing, isn’t it?

                  • ManixT@lemmy.world
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                    11 hours ago

                    Same bullshit Kremlin copy pasta. Russia is the only country to blame for their imperialistic war, where they are murdering Ukrainians and stealing their land.

                    Do you support Russia?

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                  12 hours ago

                  Ok lol you go enlist then if you’re so comitted.

                  In fact if you support a draft we should force you to enlist against your will

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                    11 hours ago

                    Same old bullshit copy pasta from the Kremlin.

                    How do you not understand that Russia has invaded their country and is murdering them and stealing their land?

                    If someone broke into your house and was about to shoot you and your teenage daughter and wife were in the other room would you be like “yeah I don’t believe in violence”? What good would that do?

              • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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                13 hours ago

                How exactly do you propose we get everyone to reject war?

                Because Ukrainians in general didn’t want the war to begin with.

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                    8 hours ago

                    Congratulations, you won the Miss Universe title with winning phrase “I want the peace in the world”.

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                    11 hours ago

                    “Dumb war propaganda”

                    You do realize Russia made the decision to invade the land of Ukrainian people, right?

                    What do you think happens if Ukraine doesn’t fight back?

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        15 hours ago

        Or you’d all be drafted into the military of the conquering country that was the last holdout for not drafting its people.

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          14 hours ago

          Yeah i don’t make excuses to kill people who i have no problem with.

          Maybe you should send your children against their will to fight for the profits of arms manufacturers?

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            11 hours ago

            You are obviously completely ignorant of Russian and Soviet history. Look what they have already done previously in countries they invaded in their imperialist conquest of eastern Europe.

            You think a draft would be bad to fight back invaders in your country? Wait until you get conscripted by that country who was invading you.

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            14 hours ago

            The Ukrainians aren’t fighting for the profits of arms manufacturers. They’re fighting for their lives and the existence of their country and culture. The Russians are an existential threat to Ukraine. What do you think is going to happen if young Ukrainians don’t fight? The Russians are just gonna go “fair enough” and go home? You’re an idiot if you think that’s even an option.