If you buy basically anything from the meat, or dairy, or egg, aisle of your supermarket then you are creating demand for a product whose creation involves quite a lot of suffering.
Producers would not produce meat if nobody bought it. There’s a direct causal link between the two. Just because this specific cow didn’t die for you to specifically eat it doesn’t remove the link between your choice and the death.
iPhones also weren’t produced with the hopes that people would buy them, Apple did extensive market research. Had they found that people wouldn’t buy them, they wouldn’t have produced them. Have you ever looked into how product development happens?
demand does not causally lead to production.
Of course it does.
I bought a PlayStation. Sony isn’t going to put it back into production, despite proven demand.
producers are free agents, so the only phenomenon that can be said to cause their actions is their own will.
Producers would not produce meat if nobody bought it. There’s a direct causal link between the two. Just because this specific cow didn’t die for you to specifically eat it doesn’t remove the link between your choice and the death.
At least that’s my non-vegan perspective.
iphones were produced before anyone bought one. producers can’t know whether a product will sell in the future.
iPhones also weren’t produced with the hopes that people would buy them, Apple did extensive market research. Had they found that people wouldn’t buy them, they wouldn’t have produced them. Have you ever looked into how product development happens?
it was still hope. they couldn’t possibly know the future.
No, it’s not hope, it’s market research and statistics. You do understand the difference, right?
they don’t know the future. they hope their research is correct.
This is a silly sophistry and you know it is. Demand is what incentivizes supply.
the theory of supply and demand is a price discovery theory. it’s not an immutable law about when factories turn on production.
your accusation of bad faith is, itself, bad faith.
Fair enough. Others will judge for themselves.