All I hear about is “boomers” this, “Millennials” that, “Gen Z” that, etc.

Why no one talk about Gen X? What happened to them? They just vanished like in Infinity War? Or are we mistaken Gen Z by Boomers?

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    Someone has to write all these shitty articles how bad the other generations are.

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    Boomer is honestly just used as a generic term for older people who are out of touch in one way or another. Millennial was a generic term for young people the speaker didn’t like, but it’s finally been replaced by zoomer which is more age appropriate, but it took a long time. It’s not that people are ignoring Gen X, it’s that most of the time when people use the term they just mean older/younger people in general.

    TLDR, Gen X is probably lumped in with the term “boomer” (obviously the context matters, but this is the TLDR).

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    For some reason, the internet has mistaken gen X for boomers with the “ok boomer” meme. Anyone over 40 is a boomer to the young. Completely unbeknownst to the fact that real baby boomers are literal senior home elderly people

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    There is another theory I’ve heard that I like:

    1. The parents of the millenials were the boomers. The parents of gen z was gen X. Millenials and boomers are fairly equally disliked, and gen alpha seems to be shaping up to follow that trend.
    2. If you have been paying attention to legitimate complaints about each generation, you’ll notice similarities between the kids and their parents. Both millenials and boomers get hate for being terrible parents and workaholics, and the hate gen z is currently getting for having no work ethic sounds very similar to the hate gen X got back when they were in their 20s for being supposedly lazy and stupid becuase of MTV.
    3. This implies that we are seeing not one pendulum of overractions to generational trauma, but two. The Millenials and the Baby Boomers, if you trace it back, descended from the humbly named Greatest Generation which fought in WWII and set the wheels of modern American culture into their current tracks. Gen Z and Gen X descend from the Silent Generation, who were best known for being conformist and pretty much nothing else.

    Here’s the conjecture part of the theory: the Boomer lineage has been taught that what matters is what you do and if you don’t achieve you have no value, whereas the Silent Generation lineage has been taught that good people are good to their family and community and being a workaholic is bad for that. The poop-throwing you’re seeing online is simply an expression of a conflict between opposing values.

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      Both millenials and boomers get hate for being terrible parents and workaholics, and the hate gen z is currently getting for having no work ethic sounds very similar to the hate gen X got back when they were in their 20s for being supposedly lazy and stupid becuase of MTV.

      Millennials were definitely called entitled and lazy.

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      Very generous outlook on Gen X, who are mostly seen as boomer lite in my experience.

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    Gen X is a conspiracy. None of them actually exist.

    My Canadian girlfriend (well, now wife) is from Gen X - I swear.

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    Nah we are here, just staying out of the drama I guess. Busy working. My guess is we aren’t enough of a market - not the desirable-to-marketers 18-30 age group, and not a huge group with money like the boomers. So we are not targeted as much.

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    A lot of gen x got theirs. College was paid for and was cheap, lots of opportunities while they were young, got a house, a family and are just living. They will get a fair inheritance if their parents die on time, but they are also the first to see that huge nest egg disappear to the current healthcare system.

    Their vote never counted. Too many boomers.

    They were the first to figure out their parents had it incredibly easy, although it took them a long time. Sometimes they didn’t see it until their own kids struggled with costs and employment.

    A lot are conservative but probably because they have assets and don’t like social welfare taking from them, even though their parents set it up for them to lose.

    They aren’t as tech savvy as millennials.

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      They aren’t as tech savvy as millennials.

      Yeah, this is nonsense. Gen X were the generation that had to adapt to emerging technology in the workplace, when that technology itself wasn’t designed with user-friendliness at its core, and usually without an education that prioritised that. They worked with obscure hardware and obtuse software. They then continued to adapt as the Internet became prevalent and software within offices evolved. They saw the most change, and remain in the workforce.

      As time has gone on, technology has simplified for the user. As such, Gen X are absolutely the generation that taught their parents how to solve their IT issues, and the ones that continue to teach their children, with Xennials being the peak of that curve.

      Anecdotally, my teenage kids fly around an iPhone, but still think a computer is the fucking monitor.

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        I wonder if the context of ‘tech person’ vs average person is what they meant?

        A genx tech person in their field is going to be on avg further along than millenial in the same field - because they’ve literally been doing it longer, more experience, learnt more, exposed to more fundamentals.

        imo the distinction is the average (non-tech) genx probably will have less tech exposure than avg millenial, millenials were coming up during the shift of the average person thinking “computers are for geeks” to “tech is cool”.

        disclaimer: generation names are kind of arbitrary divide and conquer bs anyway.

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        Kids of today certainly lack a lot of “background” tech troubleshooting skills, but understand some of the more nuanced details of modern systems. It’s both interesting and frustrating to watch.

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      They aren’t as tech savvy as millennials.

      I’m GenX. If you ask my group of friends “who here has built their own PC from components?” every hand is going to go up. Including the teacher, the administrator and the financier.

      Ask a group of Millennials who knows what the command line is for and see what reaction you get.

      GenX is the generation that does tech support for its parents and its children.

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        Kind of… It’s really that weird bridge period between the two generations. 1980 seems to be the sweet spot. The further your birth year is from it, in either direction, the less tech savvy they seem to be.

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          I can prove this scientifically in that I am employed in tech and a lot of my friends are too.

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        Isn’t that just cos: a) you had to build your own PC back then, and b) you have way more time and resources to do so

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          Exactly. I don’t know that it’s just that, but it is that. It’s not like the people are fundamentally different raw materials - a generation is defined by it’s circumstances. And those were the gen x circumstance.

          (Edit: except resources. There were fuck all resources compared to today)

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      They aren’t as tech savvy as millennials.

      We built the tech. I was there, three decades ago.

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        I bought a 386 motherboard that needed a patch. Not software, but by soldering a wire between two pads. You just basically figure it out and went from there with a soldering iron.

        Build the computer from parts? Sure. Soldered it like it came as discrete components? Also sure.

        Tech savvy is often in context of when you were learning in your teens to early twenties and then what of that skill set is still applicable today.

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        Some of the genx built it, but the rest of them were too old (too busy) to learn it. The kids learned it.

        X86 was not built by genx if you want to get pedantic.

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          I was talking about the dot-com technology of 30 years ago, not the 8-bit microchip technology of ~50 years ago.

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            Web “1” and web2.0 was awful. Kids of that time had to troubleshoot it on their own.

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      I think I’m technically gen-x but I definitely feel more kindred with millennials, but goddamn, you nailed it. Describes exactly how I see my slightly older peers.

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      Pushing my kids towards Linux. Helping them when they get stuck. Winshittification has just gotten so bad…

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      I disagree that they aren’t as tech savvy as Millennials. I would say on average its younger GenX and older Millennials that have the highest tech skills, with GenX probably ahead. That’s referring to percentage, not total numbers.

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        Yes, “xennials” probably have their own generation because of this, but I have met a lot more millennials that can manage UI changes over genx.

        Switch a genx from windows to Mac and they are lost. Switch a millennial and they seem to be fine. I’ve seen this with phones, TVs, websites, etc.

        Genx were young during “dumb” tech. VCR, digital phones, etc. millennials were learning the internet as it was moving from a hobby to its own platform, cellphones as they were first widely available then as they went “smart”, and a lot of other examples.

        Don’t get me wrong, a lot of knowledge was lost along the way like manual categorical systems including tabulation machines, phone books, Thomas Guides, even cabinet filing systems/card catslogs. Genx handles these things a lot better than the more recent generations.

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          Genx were young during “dumb” tech. VCR, digital phones, etc. millennials were learning the internet as it was moving from a hobby to its own platform, cellphones as they were first widely available then as they went “smart”, and a lot of other examples.

          What’s being missed here is that Gen-X were doing the same thing as Millennials at the same time, except in the workplace rather than school. But they also had the experience of what came before.

          Gen Xers didn’t just stop at the “dumb” tech, they were the ones putting the smart tech into practice at work. While millennial students were learning about the Internet, Gen X were building it.

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          Switch a millennial to a CLI or ask them to understand underlying technologies or networking and watch the difference between them and xennials for example.

          Digital native means they learned how to click next.

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            Younger millennial here, some of us grew up using Linux. There are literally dozens of us!

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        “Xennials” probably have the most critical problem solving skills applicable to tech. But 80’s/90’s kids were dealing with really new or bad tech while 60’s/70’s kids were dealing with VCRs and ATMs.

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        Its pretty much Gen X who grew up programming their own games on Amigas on things like that, Milleniums grew up with iPads and game consoles.

        When Gen X dies off I’d say the world’s going to have a lot less being fixed all round unless AI gets a lot better.

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          There’s quite a span between older and younger millennials. Older millennials were already in college by the time the iPad was released.

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            And some of the younger ones were too poor to get one. 93 here and I remember growing up using 95/98/XP/Linux rather than iPads.

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      Wow, that a very insightful and concise description, really. Now I understand more. Thank you.

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    Love y’all, but on bluesky gen X has been behaving like boomers more and more often. Maybe it has to do with hitting a certain age and becoming “get of my lawn”?

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    We took the brunt of everything the Boomers could throw at us. You’re welcome. Its your turn now, we’re tired.

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      What the hell are Boomers? Some kind of Dark souls boss? We are the Third generation they fuck up!

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        They got a college education for about $1000 in today money, bought property and homes for $20k today money, and are clinging to power rather than letting anyone younger have a seat at the table. They were born on third base and think they hit a triple. Every other generation is too “lazy” to do what they did, so it must be correct that they hold onto power because we’d just fuck it all up.

        The world got handed to them in post-WWII USA while Europe and Asia were rebuilding and they fail to recognize that they were born into an unprecedented situation that is unlikely to repeat. That’s why they’re selfish assholes.

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          I agree with everything you said but I think one thing that is often overlooked is how the boomers are virtually all lead poisoned. Gen-X and some Millennials as well but the Boomers took the brunt of it. They grew up with lead gas poisoning the air, lead pipes (well, a bigger percentage anyways) poisoning the water, lead tools poisoning the workers, lead bullets poisoning game, and so forth. Lead poisoning does some fucked up stuff to people’s cognitive abilities. The lead problem still exists but the scale of the problem back when the boomers were growing up was on a whole different level.

          Exposure to lead can result in a variety of effects upon cognitive functions including deficits in general intellectual functioning, ability to sustain attention on tasks, organization of thinking and behavior, speech articulation, language comprehension and production, learning and memory efficiency, fine motor skills, high activity level, reduced problem solving flexibility and poor behavioral self-control.

          https://www.mwph.org/health-services/lead-treatment/poisoning-effects

          Also not saying they have an excuse, just saying I think lead poisoning of > 1 sequential generation affected a lot of decisions. Most probably small but all of them adding up to set the stage for our current situation.

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          They also have a reputation for having dropped all the 60s counterculture idealism as soon as they got a buck, and have been driving the capitalist market for shitty overseas products like it’s a drug addiction. Sorry, is that just my dad? Signed, a Middle Millennial