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    Hey, remember how right-wingers all laughed at What is a Woman? Reveling in their willful ignorance by laughing at anyone who dared to have a nuanced answer? Now they had a chance to define it for themselves, and immediately sat on their own (legally feminine) balls.

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      They genuinely didn’t know, they were just asking because they wanted an answer! /s

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    I’m so glad he is fixing important things like this, instead of wasting his time on housing and food and energy! /s

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      I went to the store today and I’m afraid that Eggs still cost the same as a week ago.

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            But all of these things are now the greatest ever because Trump is president. We’re actually lucky they’re not more expensive/s

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              I drive a 2005 Honda Civic, I for one am absolutely cackling watching these chuds roll up in their 30 foot long 12,000 lb Ford Brodozer, it costs $80 to fill that thing up when fuel is cheap. Once it hits $5 or more a gallon those trucks are toast. Meanwhile I’m rolling away with $30 in gas to fill my tank and plans to get an EV.

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            I dunno about that, mate. He said he might never have found Biden’s note that he left for him if he hadn’t been reminded about it.

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        6 fucking dollars for a dozen eggs this weekend. No more bacon and egg sandwiches. Now it’s bacon and bacon sandwiches.

        Wait… I’m not seeing a downside here.

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      those reduced taxes on the rich and no regulations should trickle down eventually (into the local water supply)

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        Wait a minute! Why don’t they increase the drilling, AND raise the price at the pump! That’s more smarter

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        It’s so when he fucks relations with Canada and Mexico, our largest crude oil suppliers, US big oil will have the resources to gouge us without supply constraints.

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    Exactly. Just wait until Donnie realises technically all cis-males are trans, as all fetuses start off as female and only begin transitioning to being male six weeks into their existence

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    Kamala wanted to be the 1st woman President so Trump had to make sure he was the first instead.

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    I mean they’re obviously arguing chromosomal sex is the end all be all

    while it is true the gonads and external genitalia of embryos appear the same regardless of chromosomal sex it is also true that generally that embryo will develop sex characteristics in weeks 7-12 based on chromosomal assignments that occurred at conception.

    The xy embryos have the presence of the sry gene on the Y chromosome which triggers development of gonads into testes, testosterone, and amh. Wolffian ducts become early stages of a penis, amh causes Müllerian ducts to regress

    Xx embryos lack sry gene obviously, which allow the gonads to become ovaries. The wolffian ducts regress without amh and the Müllerian ducts become early stages of a vagina

    Then week 12+ is when uterus/prostate start

    That said biological sex is obviously much more complex than this. Intersex people exist. And there’s a great deal of variation in that.

    Gonadal dysgenesis can occur when the gonads do not fully develop into testes or ovaries, incomplete or ambiguous genitalia.

    True hermaphroditism can occur where both ovary and testicular tissue is present, again usually leading to ambiguous genitalia (no futas)

    Androgen insensitivity can lead to ambiguous genitalia or in some cases an xy person with female external genitalia

    Alternatively excess androgen can cause masculinized genitalia in xx people

    Kleinfelters (xxy) can give underdeveloped testes, infertility, and low testosterone

    Turners (x) underdeveloped ovaries, infertility

    And this just kind of hand waves all those people away. Do you feel like your identity is linked to the fact that you’re in this minority and maybe doesn’t match what people perceive you to be? Are you an xy person with female genitalia because of androgen insensitivity who feels that your genitalia don’t match who you are. Well technically you’re a guy now I guess by these rules although we all know they mean “if you look like a chick you’re a chick”

    And this all is besides the scientific evidence on transgender neurology, which is large and growing.

    The bed nucleus of stria terminals is associated with gender identity and is typically smaller in cis women and larger in cis men. In amab trans women it tends to be similar to that of cis women

    Cortical thickness of trans individuals tends to align more closely with their preferred gender

    Trans people tend to show brain connectivity patterns in regions associated with self perception and body image aligned with their identity

    Etc. this is already a novel. And this doesn’t even touch upon the *many many * more things at play here like genetics and epigenetics, prenatal neural developments and hormonal factors, social structures around gender (though tbf they did somewhat touch on this if only to outright deny its validity without offering any real rationale other than “we think it’s dumb”)

    But these people obviously don’t give a shit about any of this. They’ll negate it, attack the source, outright deny the claims with no counter evidence, etc. or they’ll just do what they’re currently doing, remain completely ignorant on the topic and seize authority and power to implement their will regardless of the scientific consensus.

    Dark times but fuck them. You don’t need the governments approval to express yourself. although I do recognize this will probably be an absolute nightmare for anyone who has not gotten a name change, modified birth certificate, drivers license, etc. if you haven’t done that maybe do it asap, especially for federal documents like passports (especially if you plan to bail on this shithole)

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      Thank you!

      I hate these “gotcha” responses like the “everyone is female” thing.

      Of the many MANY ways that “biological sex” can be determined (phenotype, hormone, etc) the ONLY one that exists at the time of conception when we’re not even talking embryo stage yet because there’s only one fertilized cell (or two if you want until mitosis begins) is chromosomal sex.

      “But we’re all female at first” isn’t going to hold up in court, and it’s NOT going to save trans lives. We need to do better.

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    What I don’t see many talk about, this wording also implies that life starts at conception so every abortion is now illegal, no blue state save havens

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      This is the real two-step to worry about.

      I mean, inaccuratly dunk on their stupid attempt at defining gender in a genderless single-cell, but this is the scary part.

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    Wouldn’t this just mean no one’s a male or a female. I get that we develop female characteristics first in utero, then go to male if the y chromosome is there in most situations, but thats later on. At conception, the only cells you’re producing are undifferentiated stem cells, not reproductive cells.

    So trump just abolished gender?

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      No, the EO as written presumes that there is such a thing as a binary sex which is determined at conception such that those who belong to one sex go on to develop sperm and so on. How those sexes are defined and how to determine whether one belongs to one or the other is left unspecified. It’s not a technical document, it’s just supposed to harm a specific group of people rather than offer a coherent perspective.

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    We’re all clowning on that doofus but who measures at conception? How are they actually going to enforce this?

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      They’re going to enforce it however they want. Words only mean something to us, these idiots just want carte blanche to attack anyone they deem as not fitting the gender binary.

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      They don’t need to measure. We’re all female at conception. We’re dunking but it’s ACTUALLY that stupid

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      They’re fascists, they’re only going to enforce it when they want to hurt someone they don’t like or when it benefits them. They don’t give a shit about precedence or conviction or morality or anything other than what serves them in the moment. They have captured the courts, and both houses, and the presidency. Consistency or hypocrisy don’t matter to them. They’ll use whatever justification works in the moment and turn on a dime if it serves them.

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    Hmmm. I’m definitely trying to figure it out.

    “Male” means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the small reproductive cell. “Female” means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the large reproductive cell.

    At conception I was a single cell that contained both the combined small and large cells(sperm and egg). I was a fertilized cell that didn’t produce either small or large reproductive cells yet. I think that makes me neither then?

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      This executive order just abolished all gender politics. I didn’t expect Trump to be so progressive on day one.

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        I think having left wing politicians unironically start praising this would be the absolute best response. They didn’t solely to get a rise out of the left and so far we’re just laughing at the jokes being made at it’s expense.