• SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world
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    24 hours ago

    To be honest, I have never understood why the “average joe” ever identified with Trump, whose whole point is that he is a “successful” billionaire businessman. Why they believe he’s looking out for the little guy is beyond me.

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      9 hours ago

      I think people are reacting mainly emotionally (i.e. “I feel that this person can be trusted”) rather than doing any meaningful level of political analysis and that the attraction of many for confident loudmouth politicians is in part a reaction to a couple of decades of being swindled by soft speaking slippery suits on both sides of the isle.

      (Politically Aware people - which I imagine most of us here are - tend to expect from others similar levels of being well informed about Politics and thinking it to be important, when in reality most people do not think, care or are as well informed about politics anywhere as much as the Politically Aware)

      These things come in cycles and we’re back in the age when people are over-saturated with the “sophisticated misdirection and half-truth deceiver” type of swindler whilst not being innured to the “loud and brash liar” type of swindler, because the last couple of decades have been dominated in politics by the former kind of manipulator whilst the last time the latter type was dominant was almost a century ago.

      That’s my theory.

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      21 hours ago

      Probably one of a few things.

      • always voted R
      • one or a few, policies matter to them more than anything (abortion, tax cuts etc.)
      • likes the toxic traits (owning the libs, bigotry, pro America and fuck everyone else)
      • fell for the neo-con lie that conservative = good economy = better for everyone
      • fell for the “we’re going to help the working man” Conservative lie

      But most likely, imo, is that the average Joe is just way less politically engaged or aware, then you and your peers. They don’t see all the bullshit, bigotry, obvious lies, the way R policies will fuck them over. They just know times are tough, prices are high and “right wing dude said he’d fix it”.

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      23 hours ago

      Rural people generally on average mistrust city people. City person shows up one day and gives them riches beyond their wildest imaginations, two hundred dollars and a luxury import chocolate. Other city people say “don’t trust these gifts, that guy is a known con artist”. Rural people didn’t grow up in an environment where scammers could just get away with it, cuz they’d get beat up by the other 80 people in the town that all knew them.

      They don’t have the defenses mechanism of skepticism built in from day 1. They often do not understand the difference between the law as written vs as intended, because strict interpretation of the rules is not required for a small society of people that all generally know teachers other to function.

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      I have never understood why the “average joe” ever identified with Trump

      A major reason for the vehement support the right receives is trying to control what people can say.

      The left has itself to blame for its overreaching censorship in online spaces for why so many people feel more comfortable being part of the right.

      You can’t just tell the “average joe” that a man is a woman and vice-versa, then ban him for saying otherwise and expect him to stay on your side.

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        I think you’re right but no one wants to hear it. Everyone’s extremely polarized and people seem to be happy to point the finger and say “you voted wrong” with smug arrogance. I bet a lot of Trump voters felt like they didn’t have a better choice.

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        Can you explain what you mean with “censorship in online spaces from the left”? As far as I know, most of our digital infrastructure is in the hand of MAGA right wing billionaires (X, Facebook, Instagram) and other people who are not really known as left (Reddit, TikTok, Google/YouTube). Most of our big social networks are not doing any left wing censorship. YouTube will demonitize you when you swear enough, because advertisers don’t like that. Musk will censor you when you disagree with his politics. Trump will fire you if you mention certain words. But that is right wing censorship. So where are those spaces where the left is censoring everything that are pushing people to vote for the right?

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          8 hours ago

          You can’t just tell the “average joe” that a man is a woman and vice-versa, then ban him for saying otherwise and expect him to stay on your side.

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            7 hours ago

            You think everyone is a transphobic bigot and that’s what swayed the vote?

            There’s no helping people like you.

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      22 hours ago

      Why they believe he was ever a successful businessman is beyond me…

      The guy is a fucking rich kid moron.

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      21 hours ago

      I think it has to do with the conservative tendency to see a natural hierarchy to humanity.

      (begin sarcasm)

      Obviously, rando leopard victim currently under discussion is a member of the upper echelon of that human hierarchy. They are confused by the same things as Trump, they hate the same people as him, and they see the same TrRuTh about the world as him.

      Surely, those are enough “good people” attributes that any day now they will get swept along on the Trump train and will be out of the trailer and sitting on a golden shitter before you know it. He might even let them push the button that takes food stamps away from a brown skinned single mother!

      Or, and hey let’s be fair, maybe some of them are smarter than that. They know that no Aryan Dividends are coming their way. But they have the integrity to tough it out while the other “good” people in charge spend all their energy hurting the subhuman garbage that deserves it most. That is obviously more important than education or human rights or whatever the limp-wristed liberal cucks are crying about today.

      The money is just part of the deal when you’re one of the master race-- err, no, I mean when you’re one of the good people, the REAL Americans. It’s not like you have to be BORN already having the money or just win the lottery some other way, lol.

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      22 hours ago

      Because they don’t think of themselves as the little guy. No matter how poor they are, they’re always temporarily embarrassed millionaires.

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      23 hours ago

      Same… I have always known Trump to be an idiot… literally the stereotypical kid whose Dad is ashamed of because he decided to clown around and never accomplished anything given all the opportunities