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Auction: https://www.sav.com/auctions/details/7073489/hexbear.net
Not sure what will happen, but seems to be a Fediverselore event for sure
Update: post from hexbear admin on chapo.chat: https://chapo.chat/post/4468531
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It’s up to $1921 now lol
I am not writing this to shit on them, but I have to appreciate the irony in the situation. Something about a communist community getting messed up by lapses in individual responsibility, or an authoritarian leaning community getting messed up by fuckups in leadership.
It should probably go to furry coders.
Hex bears ain’t got nothing on octal wolves
Serious question: if this happened to a popular federated instance (say Lemmy.world) and it got bought by someone malicious, what’s the worst they could do to my Lemmy feed and the Lemmy community in general?
Not much. The domain isn’t the server. Hexbear will be fine, under another name.
How do other servers identify themselves on ActivityPub other than the domain? Is there some cryptographic key pair?
Yes there’s a crypto keypair
That, I do not know.
I bet its just domain. Anything else is too complicated for admins
It got bid up to $700 😂
I enjoyed the community. Hope they find a new home.
They went through ban wave after ban wave and even their own internal dev team got burned out on the drama. I can’t say I’m surprised by this, but its the inevitable attrition that happens when you eat your own tail for years on end.
My 3 favorite proposed alternative urls are tank.ie hexbearmoretankie.net and infinity.ai
If bean.is wasn’t so expensive it would win, full shot.
Oh wow, this post reminded me to renew some domains I use.
Hexbear isn’t worth dogshit but if someone wants to waste their money, then i wont stop them
If I had the money I’d buy it and replace every post with goatse.
yes let’s sexually harass all those people depending on our mutual aid comm. you’re so righteous.
There are only two kinds of people on Lemmy.
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People who left Reddit to escape the verbal diarrhea that overwhelmed the site.
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People who left Reddit to spread that diarrhea.
sigh The @sh.itjust.works domain is full of the latter.
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Just social media posting your way to praxis? That’s a hell of a form of “mutual aid.”
what cowbee said, and you dorks trying to get the domain to redirect hexbear to sexually explicit or otherwise useless shit are just making it that much harder for the numerous palestinians, trans people, unhoused people, etc. who have come to rely on c/mutual_aid.
good to know that owning the “tankies” is more important to you dweebs than letting us continue to help them. i really hope you’re proud of yourselves.
There’s a Mutual Aid comm where people in need can make a request for money or other such necessity and others can fulfil them.
Maybe not goatse, but if i were rich i’d just redirect it to world lmfao
Average Western “”““leftists””“”
I don’t know if you’re talking about me, but if so i am not western, and hating on MLism isn’t anti-left lmao.
Hating on a major branch of leftist thought isn’t technically anti-all left, but it’s still left punching. Trying to say Marxism-Leninism isn’t left is just purity testing nonsense.
I dunno, if you consider yourself a leftist I think you’d be doing a much better service attacking right-wingers, especially now that there’s a huge rise of literal Nazis in Western countries, than attacking branches of leftism you personally disagree with. It’s entirely understandable why people would question your motives if you decide to dedicate a good portion of your personal time to anti-communism.
Politics doesn’t exist on a one-dimensional scale you know. These extremely authoritarian branches of leftism are to me just as detestable as right-wing authoritarianists (though clearly one is more of a present threat). But I dislike being associated with those people because they believe they somehow must be similar in ideology to me.
Politics doesn’t really have dimensions to begin with, things like the Political Compass are just abstractions of ideas and positions that attempts (unsuccessfully, IMO) to provide shortcuts to understanding the broader image of a viewpoint.
As an example, Marxism-Leninism and AES states espouse and implement more democratic structures, but harshly oppressed opposition from liberals, monarchists, and fascists. This is certainly “authoritarian,” but I don’t think that’s a bad use of authority. Rather, all systems and positions are “authoritarian” in different directions and towards different groups. You get where this is getting muddy and rather than clarifying, it’s actually adding more confusion?
As a side-note, if you think Communists are “just as detestable” as Nazis, I think you need to look more critically at these movements historically. Blackshirts and Reds is a great comparison of fascism and communism historically, proving them to be completely uncomparable in terms of sheer brutality and who they served, the bourgeoisie or the proletariat, while taking a critical look at the USSR and why it dissolved.
Totally going to defeat that 400 year dictatorship of capital which has only previously made concessions to workers when there was a tangible alternative system presenting some threat to theirs with an election. Keep it up. Believe in you. <3
hating on MLism isn’t anti-left lmao
lmao
Woof. We’ve got a live one.
Yes of course, real leftism is when you exclusively punch left and encourage spending money to highjack leftists spaces to redirect them to right wing neo liberal ones.
Lol. I don’t exclusively punch left so i don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about, and i said it would be funny, while saying “it’s a waste of money”.
and encourage spending money to highjack leftists spaces to redirect them to right wing neo liberal ones.
Get a clue lmao. State capitalism isn’t leftist. Even fucking social democrats are more leftist, and that’s saying something.
Lol. I don’t exclusively punch left
Your comment history disagrees.
State capitalism isn’t leftist
Oh but imperialist neoliberalism is? I guess “real leftism” is just Western chauvinism.
Even fucking social democrats are more leftist
Why? Oh right, because they’re Western
The rest of the Fediverse should put together a GoFundMe to buy the domain, and stick up a page with links to donate drones to Ukrainian soldiers, and care packages to families of Uyghur muslims detained in concentration camps in China.
Honestly I’d donate. Would love to see them seethe.
Couldn’t somebody buy it and change it to force all the assholes out and then change things to make it a proper instance?
Idk how federation works, but I imagine the domain name isn’t the only thing that ties the instanses together together?
I could be wrong
nah they could, theyd just change it to their ip address, like the domain vendor deleted their ip address from the records when they didn’t pay
That’s not how the Fediverse works. Instances are per domain, not per IP address. You can change IPs however often you want, as long as your domain points to the right server.
Every second bid is J_S. Wonder how high they’ll go
I kinda wanna bid them up, but I am the broke and don’t want to spend unnecessary moneys right now
This almost certainly won’t kill the Hexbear community, and frankly I don’t think there’s any way they will choose to pony up the auction money. This community has moved from reddit to discord to the fediverse and they’ll probably just be on their backup/original domain chapo.chat for a month or two before switching over to whatever the admins decide to switch to, and then it will be business as usual under a new name.
Still there’s a lesson here about setting up a durable online community - don’t let someone control the domain registration with their personal account, you’re just asking for something like this to happen. If they don’t have one already the admins should set up some kind of organization that can “own” the new domain, donations, etc so that this can’t happen again.
The current vibe definitely is “Dont pay money to cyberlandlords, give it to people in the mutual_aid comm”. Let it go and get a new domain
They dont own that one either somehow lol
I just don’t get how you could keep trusting the people that run the instance after this. Its like the whole manjaro thing I could never use it because I do not trust the people in charge because they won’t stop fucking up.
Making some assumptions about who is who (because they’ve intentionally made it difficult to keep track for doxxing reasons), this should be the last connection they have to a previous admin team that’s been at the core of a lot of the unforced errors over the years. I think it may actually be smooth sailing after this. Either way, I have too many alts across different instances to be too worried about a single one falling. I would indeed miss Hexbear though.
You don’t really need to “trust” the admins if you think of your account like a throwaway.
what’s up with manjaro?
Don’t have a horse in the race myself (since I use arch, btw) but e.g. here is a compiled list of some past issues.
830 days since manjaro last fucked up. I’ve been using manjaro for a while. other than some hiccups i’d expect of a rolling release distro i’ve been fairly happy with it
Just add the following line to your host file and add an override to your DNS:
37.187.73.130 hexbear.netProblem solved, this is how we did it in 1985.
Ps. I was born in 1989. Lol
This won’t work in the fediverse. Sure you’ll be able to reach hexbear but no fediverse server would be able to federate content into it.
no problem.
I prefer:
0.0.0.0 hexbear.netFound their missing admin!
lol at the idea of just running the site off their laptop or something for all these years. Any time the site went down it was just them closing the lid.
I’ve done that as late as the 2010’s, but I am old timey
so that IP resolves to https://chapo.chat/ but it uses the Hexbear.net’s resources?oh now I understand…
yes that is the mirror hostname basically (they already had in the past as well).
But I’m now for example able to just visit: https://hexbear.net/communities. And yes I do believe we just reach the same server actually (more or less, maybe kept in sync manually).
Is there a remind me bot on Lemmy? Asking for a friend that might do something financially irresponsibly hilarious at last second if the auction values doesn’t go much higher.
yes. @[email protected]
They’ve moved to chapo.chat.
How does anyone know that this is a fair auction. As much as the users may be hated or disliked, I still don’t believe in companies or corporations taking advantage of people like this to make a cheap buck.
Who’s to say that every bid in the auction is being artificially raised by a company rep and no matter what amount anyone comes up with, the owner will just keep raising it until they find a really high value.
Shitty situation all around and as much as they are not liked, I wouldn’t want anything like this happening to any honest instance out there.
I dont think anyone on hexbear is actually bidding on the auction. For one most users are poor and the consensus seems to be that any money that would go to cyberlandlords would be better served in the mutual_aid comm. Like if someone wants to spend money on hexbear, they should spend it on those that need it the most.
Thats always risky and I highly doubt it, they could just not buy it and then they’re stuck holding the domain and can’t sell it for a cheaper price immediately after
Thanks! Unlike a lot of Lemmy users, I have a soft spot for hexbears. I think they had a genuinely traumatic experience when they federated and their very personal instance was inundated with people who didn’t think and talk as they did. I’m glad they’re ok.
Ah, I saw a lot of people traumatized by their posting, but it is the first time I hear about the opposite.
Hexbear is the only place online I’ve found that I feel most comfortable speaking my mind as a neurodivergent queer communist. People act like hexbear is some harsh authoritarian zone, it just simply doesn’t condone chauvinism, transphobia, or let people post western propaganda without it being questioned. Some people react poorly to the way they are responded to on hexbear when they post some bullshit that we’ve heard and debunked 1000 times already.
they had a genuinely traumatic experience
Jesus Christ, this is so ridiculous. They federated on their own accord, and from what I’ve seen very little non-hexbear users ever came to post on hexbear communitites. Seeing some new users in your online community who disagree with you isn’t fucking traumatic, in fact these people adore arguing and “dunking” on “libs”.
Their community reminds me of that one Something Awful subforum with the same style. I guess hexbear is just a younger demographic
According to that statement they don’t have access to the account to renew that one either, so they’ll lose it eventually and it should be considered temporary. 🤷♂️
They didn’t really move. That hostname has been a synonym for hexbear.net all along. It may have been the instance’s original hostname.
Thanks, added to the OP
