It’s what’s known as “vulture capitalism” or “parasitic capitalism”, where sociopathic kleptocrats are allowed control and treat all aspects of life as hostile and adversarial — value must be extracted and stolen from others — rather than a mutually beneficial relationship to improve and enrich the experience for everyone.

This is exemplified by the stock market and “line must go up” — the belief that stable, sustainable profits are a failure and growth must be continuous and exponential, in a planet and civilisation of finite resources, analogous to cancer.

This!!! All this!

Hard agree. It does feel like we’re entering an age where that may start to shift, though. Well, not so much a shift in the “mainstream”, but it feels like we’re starting to see more and more parallel products and services that have anti-enshittification built in. And I think that’s our best path forward, all of us who care should work towards a parallel ecosystem that cuts these practices out as much as we can.

We’re in the era of Sinisterization

It’s because This Is The Bad Place

I selfhost and use mostly FOSS and have ways of blocking 99% of ads and locally control all my IoT so if you’re willing to learn then you don’t have to feel that way. Because I feel in full control and in harmony with everything.

It felt so weird to upvote this. Thanks for pointing that out, but also uuuuuuuuuuuuggggggggggghhhhhhhh

Search for firefox-tou.
The presence of that now magically removes mentions of privacy and not selling user-data in multiple places.

-    <p>
-        Firefox is independent and a part of the not-for-profit Mozilla, which fights for your online rights, keeps corporate powers in check and makes the internet accessible to everyone, everywhere. We believe the internet is for people, not profit. Unlike other companies, we don’t sell access to your data. You’re in control over who sees your search and browsing history. All that and exceptional performance too.
-    </p>

+    {% if switch('firefox-tou') %}
+      <p>Firefox is independent and a part of the not-for-profit Mozilla, which fights for your online rights, keeps corporate powers in check and makes the internet accessible to everyone, everywhere. We believe the internet is for people, not profit. You’re in control over who sees your search and browsing history. All that and exceptional performance too.</p>
+    {% else %}
+      <p>Firefox is independent and a part of the not-for-profit Mozilla, which fights for your online rights, keeps corporate powers in check and makes the internet accessible to everyone, everywhere. We believe the internet is for people, not profit. Unlike other companies, we don’t sell access to your data. You’re in control over who sees your search and browsing history. All that and exceptional performance too.</p>
+    {% endif %}

Difference here is Unlike other companies, we don’t sell access to your data.

-    <h2 class="c-section-title">The best privacy</h2>
+    {% if switch('firefox-tou') %}
+      <h2 class="c-section-title">Always protected</h2>
+    {% else %}
+      <h2 class="c-section-title">The best privacy</h2>
+    {% endif %}

Pivoting from privacy to security in the tos.

-      <li>
-        <h2>{{ ftl('does-firefox-sell') }}</h2>
-        <p>{{ ftl('nope-never-have', url=url('privacy')) }}</p>
-      </li>
+      {% if not switch('firefox-tou') %}
+        <li>
+          <h2>{{ ftl('does-firefox-sell') }}</h2>
+          <p>{{ ftl('nope-never-have', url=url('privacy')) }}</p>
+        </li>
+      {% endif %}

As you mentioned they will apparently sell your data under tos.

Where does the tos apply and where the mpl now?
They would have removed all those mentions of privacy entirely if the mpl had no use anymore, wouldn’t they?

Never trust them, they’re still lying on their FAQ

Data collection still bugs me. Can I turn it off?

Yes. User control is one of our data privacy principles. We put that into practice in Firefox on our privacy settings page, which serves as a one-stop shop for anyone looking to take control of their privacy in Firefox. You can turn off data collection there.

You can’t just turn off data collection by opt-out through this option :-/

I can’t wait for ladybird, firefox is going downhill because of the Mozilla Foundation

Mozilla doesn’t sell data about you (in the way that most people think about “selling data“)

It’s killing me x)

Maybe going from community effort to company driven isn’t so great after all. people say that Open source projects need to do that to stay alive or be worth while. Though all that has been happening with companies lately points to a different conclusion.

It was on the horizon ever since the new leadership took over. Sad but predictable.

LibreWolf has the on-machine translation and when you disable some of the hardcore privacy defaults it is a quite good Firefox replacement.

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i think there should be a global switch that enables firefox to send data to third parties, and it should be disabled by default; then firefox would be fine.

Arguably no. It’s not “you may not use this if you don’t agree.” It’s “the software does this and here is your warning.”

Still incredibly fucked.

Firefox is FOSS, Mozilla’s backend services are not.

I think they mean Mozilla services such as ai, sync, etc. The browser itself probably doesn’t fall under it.

I read it as “you type a URL in the address bar, we’ll take you there. You want to search for something using the search bar? We got you, we’ll forward your search to the search engine of your choice. All free of charge.”

It’s just worded in such generic legal wording it makes you gag. But them pointing it out so explicitly just makes me more suspicious lol. I think it’s fine for now, just another wall of text to keep an eye on for any future modifications.

From what I can tell the general consensus is LibreWolf.

We need a license to allow us to make some of the basic functionality of Firefox possible

Gee whizz, like what? What “basic” functionality is missing that can only be solved with a ToS saying they’re going to track how I use their browser?

Without it, we couldn’t use information typed into Firefox

That’s what I needed to see. So it’s not missing basic functionality, they just want to make it legal to track your browser usage.

We need a license to allow us to make some of the basic functionality of Firefox possible.

You have that! It’s implied by provision when you distribute your software under eg.: GPL!

Clarifying literally nothing.

“We couldn’t use information typed into Firefox.” Good. You don’t get that information. My software, on my computer, does. Will some insane new law suggest Notepad spies on users by capturing their keystrokes? No? Then this aggressively vague bullshit is justifying a data-collection scheme. Metadata is still data.

That’s a nice disclaimer. They should clarify that in their privacy policy directly instead of just saying “oh that’s not what we meant guys, pinky promise 😉”

I’m curious about the conversion rate from USD to Bells, and also which AC version it’s applicable to. /lh /hj

God dammit! I guess I’ll take out a new loan from Tom Nook and I just repaid the last one :(

Of course the implementation itself matters more than the promise to implement it, but the one is specifically intended to lead to the other. We shouldn’t be saying, ho-hum, they’re only threatening to f*** with our privacy in the future, when in fact this is the step before they actually do that.

Is it so hard to just be an ethical company?

Well, assuming by company you mean a for-profit entity, then yes.

Is it so hard to just be an ethical company?

Companies, by definition, can not be ethical.

What we need is for Mozilla Fd to become a employee coöp.

Fennec is one for Android. Seems okay so far.

As another user mentioned, there’s Fennec. There’s also Iceraven.

IronFox.