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Firefox alternatives comparison - asking for advice/opinion - Lemmy.World
lemmy.worldMeta note : am not sure if this is on topic for this community, please tell me
if it is not. I could not find rules, so I assume it’s okay, but i’ll remove it
if its not. So, after the recent Mozilla privacy drama, I saw multiple
recommendations of alternative browsers, each one with their pros and cons. I
was trying to get a better understanding of which one was good/bad for which
reasons, and I thought i might share it here so people with more knowledge can
correct my takes. Here is what I could get so far, based mostly on Lemmy
comments and Wikipedia pages. This is aimed at browser that share some of
Firefox values (foss, independency, (maybe) privacy, etc), so I excluded Chrome,
Edge, and others. I’m open to any feedback/infos/browser suggestions to get a
more accurate summary ! | Browser | FOSS | Privacy | Features | Engine |
Platforms | Notes | |-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-| | Firefox
[https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/] | ✅ | ❌ | ✅ | Firefox | WMLAI | AI
interest | | Brave [https://brave.com/] | ✅ | 🟠[^braveprivacy] | ✅ | Chromium |
WMLAI | Crypto interest[^bravecrypto], bigot CEO[^braveceo] | | Vivaldi
[https://vivaldi.com/] | 🟠[^vivaldifoss] | 🟠[^vivaldiprivacy] | ✅ | Chromium |
WMLAI | Aims to be a better Opera | | Ungoogled Chromium
[https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium] | ✅ | ✅ | ✅ |
Chromium | WMLA | Removes Google tracking and specific components | | Cromite
[https://github.com/uazo/cromite] | ✅ | ✅ | ✅ | Chromium | WLA | Removes most
Google tracking and keeps some specific components | | Zen Browser
[https://zen-browser.app/] | ✅ | ✅ | ✅ | Firefox | WML | | | Librewolf
[https://librewolf.net/] | ✅ | ✅ | 🟠[^lwfeatures] | Firefox | WML |
[^lwsecurity]| | Waterfox [https://www.waterfox.net/] | ✅ | 🟠[^wfprivacy] | ✅ |
Firefox | WMLA | | | Floorp [https://floorp.app/en] | ✅ | ✅ | ✅ | Firefox | WML
| | | GNU IceCat [https://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/] | ✅ | ❓ | ✅ | Firefox
| WML | Firefox without copyrighted content and with a bit more privacy| | Tor
Browser [https://torproject.org/] | ✅ | ✅ | 🟠[^torfeatures] | Firefox | WMLA |
| | IronFox [https://github.com/ironfox-oss/IronFox] | ✅ | ✅ | ❓ | Firefox | A |
| | Mullvad Browser [https://mullvad.net/browser] | ✅ | ✅ | ❌[^mullvadfeatures]
| Independent | WML | Made by the Tor team and Mullvad (VPN providers)| |
Ladybird [https://ladybird.org/] | ✅ | ❓[^lbprivacy] | 🟠 | Independent | ML |
Very early development stage, bigot devs[^lbdev] | | Orion Browser | ✅ | ✅ | ✅ |
Independent | MAI | In beta, claims to be top browser in terms of tracker
blocking, considers making a Windows version, AI interest[^\orionai] | >Notes :
Privacy is based on Firefox level, which I considered “bad” for the sake of the
comparison. Engine is the browser on which each is browser is based, if there
is. Features is to identify barebones browsers and how much risk there is to
find websites not compatible with those browsers. Question mark is for when
there is a debate or I could not find infos. Platforms is for the platforms on
which the browser is available. To keep it tight, only one letter per platform :
W for Windows, M for macOS, L for GNU/Linux, A for Android, I for iOS.
contributors : [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected] Edit 1 : added Vivaldi, Floorp
and Ironfox, clarify ‘Engine dependency’ column, add ‘Platforms’ column, add
bigot warning for ladybird.
Edit 2 : added [email protected] table (Tor, Ungoogled chromium, Cromite) and IceCat,
updated info on Vivaldi
Edit 3 : add Orion Browser, corrects lines to group browser together by engine,
added users whose infos I used via edits
Edit 4 : corrected Brave and Opera Privacy rating.
Edit 5 : removed Opera since both Privacy and FOSS would be bad. Updated Vivaldi
Privacy rating. [^braveprivacy]: they have a lot of optional data collecting,
from their Privacy Policy [https://brave.com/privacy/browser/] [^bravecrypto]:
from Brave’s Wikipedia page [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser)].
[^braveceo]: from his personal Wikipedia page
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich]. [^vivaldifoss]: some parts are
open source [https://vivaldi.com/source/], but the UI is proprietary
[https://vivaldi.com/blog/technology/why-isnt-vivaldi-browser-open-source/]
[^vivaldiprivacy]: they collect data for statistics, from their Privacy Policy
[https://vivaldi.com/privacy/browser/] [^lwfeatures]: some websites may be
blocked due to stricter privacy setups, according to LinuxSecurity’s article
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreWolf#cite_note-:0-6] cited on Wikipedia.
[^lwsecurity]: some users seemed to fear [https://lemmy.world/comment/15373725]
that having a small team, Librewolf would be late on security patches, but their
FAQ [https://librewolf.net/docs/faq/#how-often-do-you-update-librewolf] seems to
say it’s ok. [^wfprivacy]: from Waterfox’s Wikipedia page
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterfox#Privacy], linking to Exodus report
stating that android version of Waterfox uses same trackers as Firefox.
[^torfeatures]: some websites might block tor network [^mullvadfeatures]: lemmy
users said it is barebones [https://lemmy.world/comment/15374249] and their FAQ
[https://mullvad.net/en/help/tag/mullvad-browser] says it has little features by
design to prevent fingerprinting. [^lbprivacy]: could not find infos on their
website or wikipedia page. Probably not that bad, but since it is in early
development, it may evolve in better ways than other. [^lbdev]: from their
github [https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814], considering gender
neutral wording is politics and does not belong in ladybird. [^\orionai]: from
the Kagi Wikipedia page
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kagi_(search_engine)#Kagi] and lemmy comments
[https://lemmy.world/comment/15388734].
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