• Doorbook@lemmy.world
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    When you stop holding international laws when it doesnt work for you “see the zionist project” and then try to force it when it work for you, “see iran sanction and russia sanction” then now you get into a situation where a powerful government stop to pretend and ask “why i am doing this for other countries when i can take the money for myself”

    European has supported the united state atrocity fully knowing they are committing illegal and war crimes, “see Iraq war” it is surprising to see these leader being shocked because any one with brain cell can tell you not to trust the US or any other country for that matter and always have plan b, c, to z.

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    I think trump is doing all this to force Ukraine into giving up the wealth of their country for nothing. In short, trump is raping a country which is already on it’s knees. They’ll be a vassal state of the us rather than Putin, unless Putin makes a better offer. Then he’ll crow about how great he made America.

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    Well. That’s it then.

    Doesn’t matter what the terrorists in charge say. Real America should double down on support for our friends in Ukraine.

    Funding. Supplies. Volunteer work. Combat footage analysis. Supportive memes and propaganda. Offensive hacking of Russian assets for teh lulz. Whatever we can do.

    How do we find the helpers here?

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      America should double down support for the Ukrainian regime that shot and killed unarmed pro-separatist protestors on film with some of those being shot at, having their hands up with this occurring even before Russian war criminal Igor Girkin ignited everything further? A strange albeit sadly common take.

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    its so funny how opposite this is to reagan as well. preregan conservatives are so different from reagan conservatives who are so different from maga conservatives. its nuts.

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        this is tough because it so is not likely but at the same time I have no interest in defending reagan. I mean the reason he interfered in nicaragua is because of the anti commie garbage. although he might like putin given how capitalist he is nowadays. same with china.

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      The only consistant thing about conservatives over history is that they are almost always against good social progress, the ones of the past just had more sturdy spines

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    What, just because he’s betraying an ally for a hostile country actively trying to harm us?

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    MAGA tried to overthrow our government once now government is in their hands. America is doomed.

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      And the working class is not going to rise up. It’s going to eat itself.

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      The US did halt lend lease shipments to the USSR in the middle of Stalingrad in order to support actions in Tunisia.

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        That’s a very different context and you know it. That’s resource scarcity and triage. What’s happening now is we’re switching teams to the bad guys.

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          Yes, I am quite aware. US cut off intelligence to Ukraine and are planning to end sanctions with Russia which is as if the Americans stop cooperation with the Soviets completely during WW2 and gave lend-lease to the Nazis instead.

          I personally see Russian conflict with Ukraine to be more grey vs grey considering that there is footage of Ukrainian troops mowing down pro-Russian protesters with guns in post-Maidan Mariupol (not as bad as Russia’s Bucha atrocity I admit) but to each their own.

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    Inside Job called it.

    “We’re casting crisis actors for WWIII. Spoiler alert, America is the bad guy this time!”

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    It would only be like switching sides if they were supplying things to Russia

    Not taking Sides is not the same as switching sides

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      They are taking sides by stoping aid to Ukraine and lifting the embargo against Russia Keep up.

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      You mean like voting with Russia, China and North Korea? Doesn’t sound like “not taking sides” to me.

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      It isnt if you actually look at the context instead of just slinging about fallacious platitudes