• rational_lib@lemmy.world
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    What annoys me is that “doing your own research” actually makes sense in a lot of contexts. Our modern politics driven news is 90% bullshit and you’re better off fact checking everything they say by looking at reliable sources and tracing the origin of dubious claims. But these people have ruined that by acting like “do your own research” means “blindly trust some guy with a podcast who tells you what you want to hear.”

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      When someone says that they usually want you to do their research, i.e. Find arguments supporting their claim because they’re too stupid or lazy to communicate them. They don’t actually want you to do the objective scientific research,they don’t even want you to do a “Facebook research” on groups that don’t align with their views.

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      I hate when people use the word “research” because most people think it’s reading a Facebook page.

      Real research requires nyears of studying to actually understand the subject before advancing the field. It requires sometimes year or decades of meticulously measuring and registering data, all while ensuring bias stays out of the data.

      To 99% of people it’s spending 5 minutes to find the right Facebook page that will confirm their preconceptions…its gross

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    I was talking to a new friend who is a nurse yesterday, and she told me she worked in peds a bit last year during a measles outbreak in my city, during which one child died. She said she has never seen sicker children in her life, they were all unvaccinated, and that they all went home having lost so much ground. She says half the parents were just victims of disinformation but that many of them were super obnoxious.

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      Interestingly, I have some nurses in the family and the rate at which people who are educated in healthcare, are anti-vax, is too damned high.

      Which isn’t to imply its a lot of people, but any nonzero amount of people, working in healthcare, who buy into anti-vax propaganda, is too many. You’ve been formally taught about this stuff. Yet, you’re anti-vax because some person on Facebook/Twitter/whatever, fed you some bullshit about the “dangers”?? Wow. What the actual fuck.

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        My sister left a really great hospital job (radiology tech) due to the vaccine mandates. Some people are so smart and yet so dumb.

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      Now there is serious evidence that the covid19 virus came from a lab originaly. We are in ww3. People should vaccinate their children from measles. This is the fog of war. The state is not your friend. The cheeze burger clown and ol sleepy Joe were terrible leaders. If you are sick of everything just know this is just the beginning. https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/06_iran_strategy.pdf You will in your lifetime see the American imperialist empire drop nukes on civilian population.

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        This isn’t a discussion about where the virus comes from, and debating its source is entirely different than debating the science of effective treatment and vaccines. Promoting unproven horse ointments while speaking lies about proven treatments kills people.

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      To quote from Wiktionary:

      夫有以饐死者,欲禁天下之食,悖;有以乘舟死者,欲禁天下之船,悖;有以用兵喪其國者,欲偃天下之兵,悖。

      It is nonsense to forbid the world’s people to eat just because one person has choked to death when eating; it is nonsense to put the world’s boats in disuse just because someone has drowned while sailing; it is also nonsense to eliminate the world’s military forces just because one sovereign has lost his state due to his military action

  • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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    Some of those foods include peanuts which are fine for most people but are deadly for others.

    Also, some American companies have created some lab grown food that seems revolutionary, but still lacks long term health testing.

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    I mean, this level of Darwinism would be fine. What grates me is not recognizing the effect it has on others.

    Still seeking an analogy where not eating food somehow puts a neighbor or classmate at risk of starvation.

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      Herd immunity is pretty important.

      The first of the crazy parents who went anti-vax benefitted greatly from Herd immunity. Now enough of them are not vaccinating that the herd immunity is basically non-existent. So we get things like measles outbreaks.

      There are people who are medically incapable of getting vaccinated, like those with compromised immune systems (some might be in treatment for cancer)… And their best defense is if all of us, who can be immunized, are immunized.

      Cancer treatments are not the only immunocompromising thing that can happen and not all immunocompromised people have cancer specifically… For the record.

      Anyone who is anti-vax should be aware that they are actively and intentionally putting other people at risk and that should be strongly and thoroughly documented; so when they bring in a cold/flu/COVID/measles/whatever preventable disease to the school and someone else’s kid dies as a result the grieving family has the ability to sue them into poverty.

      They deserve worse, but legally, I can’t condone that… But if someone wanted to take a page from a particular person named Luigi, I would be hard pressed to find a good reason to pursue any charges against them.

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      I stopped at a stop sign and somone almost rear-ended me. Had I driven through, I would have been safe. There is no reason to stop at stop signs. Other people can stop if they choose to, but the government can’t force me to risk a rear-ending in order to protect someone else. Jesus wouldn’t let me get T-boned in an intersection, I’m covered in his blood.

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      Because food is dangerous, we’ve taken steps to ban supermarkets which distribute food.

      Only a select few strictly regulated supermarkets will be allowed to distribute food.

      We know some communities may struggle with reduced or no access to food because of this decision. However we deem this imperative in order to have a strong and healthy country.

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    To be fair, food is a significant contributor to the existence of adults. And we all know those are problems.

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        On one hand, food gave us Hitler. On the other, that dude actually killed Hitler. So…

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          Would you say they’re pedophiles if they’re children themselves? At the end of the day you are raised not gifted intelligence.

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              This is where we get into the worse debatable territory. Is a 17 year old an adult because if you say yes a lot of pedophiles will love you a lot more now. How about 16 if we can go down to 17 why not just go below, say a 14 year old should understand enough. Hell if you teach a 12 year old properly they should know enough to be treated this way as well they might just not know how terrible they are. See why it’s important to make the distinction between child and adult? So I’m going to ask again is a 17 year old an adult to you?

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                Dude the devil doesn’t need an advocate and you’re making everyone here uncomfortable by being so damn obtuse, and to what end? Does this give you dopamine or something because there are far better ways to get that.

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                  If you don’t then you ignore everything we have been for and throw yourselves to the nature state because you can undermine law whenever you feel like it. This doesn’t matter until you realize the law is the only thing holding us back from killing each other. Go search up jury selection and understand even they cannot have any level of bias to the case.

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    You know what every living autistic kid have in common? They all eat!

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    If you want to be really pissed, read up on doctor disgraced former doctor, lifelong charlatan and grifter Andrew Wakefield. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield

    He abused autistic kids in a medical experiment that was meant to convince both the public and the scientific community that a specific combined vaccine (measles-mumps-rubella, a.k.a MMR) could trigger some kind of bowel disease that causes autism, all so he could peddle his own alternative that is three separate shots.

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      And here’s the kicker: he did that because he was financially invested in the company producing the older, separate vaccines.

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    True, I usually refer to something similar: Do you know how many people die in bed every year? Perhaps we should ban beds.

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    Even then, starving your own children isn’t going to cause their classmates and teachers and those people’s families to also go hungry. OP’s comparison is extremely forgiving to those dipshits.

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    “Do your research” is a dogwhistle and of course what it really means is “Google what you want to be true and read all the shit from morons like you who agree with you.”

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    I feel like it’s probably worse than this. It should start with “I read about this thing called ‘choking to death’”.

    Or better yet, take out “choking to death” (which can happen) and insert some made-up bullshit like “choking so hard your eyeballs pop out”.

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      But they are not afraid of children dying, that’s totally fine. They’re afraid their kids might become “weird”. Because that is how they see autism, as being weird.
      And as everybody knows weird is literally worse than death.

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        One thing that I think causes a big divide in perceptions of autism is that most people perceive it almost exclusively from one side of the spectrum or the other.

        Around 1 in 30 kids will have a little more difficulty adapting to society… It’s good to recognize their needs and support their growth.

        No, wanting to prevent/treat/manage a profound and debilitating disease isn’t genocide.

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        I actually bothers me that parents hate there kids that much.

        Can you just be happy with who they are?