Well, you’re missing the real points.
- Corporate media is owned by corporations, i.e. the billionaire oligarchs that have corrupted our democracy. They make sure that anything Democrats accomplish is downplayed and give Republicans a pass.
- Our oligarchs have also thrown money into the whole system. I’ve always hated the “both sides” thing because it’s just not true. Except… it is true when it comes to corruption. I’m not aware of anyone on the Republican side who isn’t crazy or taking oligarch money, and I’m only aware of a very very few on the Democratic side. The vast majority of our politicians take that oligarch money, and yes, serve their masters.
So I suppose the second point has become a bit arguable in the past few years, although there have always been lame centrist Democrats, too. But remember that 30+ years of Fox News and right-wing radio keeps pushing the Overton window, and even centrist positions become old right-wing positions.
But with those two points above, don’t forget these points:
- The only way to fix our problems is to address the power of the oligarchs and take it away from them. Anything else is a distraction or secondary battle.
- In the meantime, the only logical choice is to vote in primaries to try and vote for the best candidate, but in the general, you must vote for the Democrats as the only relatively sane option.
So in all the “Democrats are shit” conversation, don’t forget that when it comes to the general elections - while we still have elections - get out and vote for the only fucking sane option, or shit gets worse, like all the people who believed propaganda about Kamala or who, let’s say for the sake of argument, just really didn’t like things about her. Well, do you like Trump better? Because if you stayed home and didn’t vote for her by the time we got to the general election - you fucking helped elect Trump. And if you can’t see that, you are part of the fucking problem.
So yes, let’s fix our country: Eliminate oligarch power by whatever means is necessary, kick out both parties and reboot the system and/or find people who will agree not to take corporate money to run for office, slowly build up that majority until we can repeal Citizens United and other shitty legislation and pass things like universal health care and universal basic income and actually make the country take care of its citizens.
Or, alternatively, you can rail against the Democrats (who are, indeed, largely shitty), stay home, not vote, and you won’t have to vote for much longer, as Trump promised.
That damned smile…
You failed to mention that the republicans can fire trump at any fucking moment. They can reign him in if they don’t want to fire him, but they don’t. They’re POS.
This is why he fired everyone that wasnt a sycophant.
A handful of senators and house members could cross the aisle right now and kick him out of office. Not even a handful will, because every Republican is complicit by definition
No totally I do agree, but he did fire everyone close to him that wasnt a sycophant.
You can’t say that and then not understand that the democrats have no fucking power.
Huh?
I’m not saying that the democrats in power aren’t benefitting from all the horrendous shit the republicans are doing, but I do find it interesting that American voters completely neutered the democrats, stripped them of any kind of power and then proceed to complain that they’re not doing anything about the republican hellscape that followed.
They still approved Trump’s candidates, they still caved in and let the budget through instead of twisting Trump’s balls. They still don’t really use state forces to police ICE and stop them from doing Gestapo shit.
So as an outsider, yes, the Democrat party showed in the last year that they (as a party, some members are active opposition) are not in opposition to Trump in my opinion.
Please do explain how we stripped them of the power to vote against things. Explain to me how it’s our fault Democrats voted to keep funding ICE and funding the Gaza genocide. Be specific.
You mean why they didn’t filibuster the one reconciliation bill on the senate which was literally the only chance they had to stop the administration?
Because the government does a lot of stuff, like say, feeding poor people, providing healthcare to seniors etc. And when the reconciliation bill came through, trump was still broadly popular.
So, what you’re asking is for the Democrats to hurt a lot of people until the Republicans simply changed the rules to remove that obstacle, which they have the power to do.
So, I guess the better question is, exactly how did you expect the Dems to stop these things? Be specific.
You didn’t even answer the question, let alone to any degree of specificity. Get lost, troll.
My bad, I misunderstood your question and gave you too much credit.
Your question is “why weren’t the Dems a party for which I wanted to vote.”
And in reality, not all choices are ideal. When it came to the Presidential election, there were two options, vote Democrat or support trump by either voting Republican or abstaining.
Enough people chose the latter and so here we are.
They neutered themselves by sabotaging their progressive candidates in favor of corporate shills.
Dems could join Khanna and Massie in voting for the Iran war powers act to stop us going to war in Iran at Israel’s behest, but they refuse because they too agree with neocon foreign policy. In fact, Schumer and Jeffries are trying to stifle so much as a vote by leaking inflated numbers of alleged dems who would vote against it, as a scare tactic. They are Israel first, capital second. American people - our soldiers who will die in this idiotic war, or the 80%+ of our population against this war - hardly a concern.
This meme is specifically for people like you - liberals serve capital, not people.
This meme is specifically for people like you
Odd to make memes about American politics for Danes… I’m mostly here to watch something while eating my popcorn.
Oh so you’re just rubbing it in, I see ;]
Hope you enjoy the show!
The Democrats weren’t neutered. They are just the other side of the same coin. The Democratic Party has just as much been the party of genocide, mass surveillance, and unfunded wars. The question is what populations’ lives are you willing to sacrifice to ensure that white America stays comfortable? Equality for some is not equality.
I don’t disagree with you. Having a two party system has led to two parties that are largely following the same agenda via different paths. However the democrats were voted out of any kind of power leaving the republicans to make their wettest of dreams come true. Which is why what is happening in the USA right now can only be described as fast tracking the republican utopia. No pesky democrat interference allowed.
That’s because this all stems from the disinformation campaigns that have been going on for decades. It’s not only about putting the person they want in power, it’s about making sure the opposition is seen as a weaker option even to their own supporters. The vast majority of Democrats don’t harbor this self-loathing hate against the democratic party. We see it as something that needs improvement, but we also understand that Harris wouldn’t be using ICE as her own gestapo. There is any enemy here, and it’s the ones that post “both side” memes like this. It’s not edgy. It’s not clever. It’s shit like this that gets people killed in the streets because it’s shit like this that kept people away from the polls last time. So, Doug Holland can go fuck himself.
Oh, my day is ruined.
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Republicans are Nazis and they will never stop trying to destroy the world.
- Corporate journalism couldn’t tell the truth, that a madman was in the White House
The national news services were, if anything, too hysterical in describing Trump as a “madman”. Neocon Don was right in line with the long legacy of Nixonian Republicans. And he delivered policies popular among business conservatives going straight back to Eisenhower.
But because any criticism of Trump that ran afoul of a broader indictment of US imperial foreign policy, capitalist economic policy, or unitary executive theory got dismissed as “too leftist”, what you were left with was largely court gossip about who the President was currently fucking and whether or not he was about to die of dementia or COVID.
“He’s crazy because he too old and fucks hookers” wasn’t the kill shot liberals desperately needed it to be, especially when Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer were their proscribed panacea.
- The Democrats were never an opposition party
Ain’t that the fucking truth.
The national news services were, if anything, too hysterical in describing Trump as a “madman”.
When was this? I follow news fairly closely, and never heard anything like this beyond an occasional op-ed column or a direct quote. A madman in the White House needs to be newsworthy beyond the opinions page.
never heard anything like this
The 10 worst things Trump did in 2019
Ken Griffin, Republican Megadonor, Is Wall Street’s Loudest Trump Critic
Republicans, it’s time to choose between autocracy and a republic
Like, always and forever, these criticism are from some Bush Era flaks and other “moderate” reactionaries. But they were littered all through the back end of the Trump 1 regime and early 2024 election cycle.
A madman in the White House needs to be newsworthy beyond the opinions page.
At the very least, the dementia allegations have been front-page news since his first election campaign back in 2016.
After that, I’m not sure what you’re asking for. Trump isn’t a foreign leader, so you’re not going to see the kind of truly hysterical coverage we reserve for enemy nations. One of the perks of running the secret services is that you can just fire all the guys who publish that shit. Not a coincidence that Trump took a hatch to the State Department in his first term nor that his first move in term two was to ax Voice of America and the USAID program. When these calls are coming from inside the house, just cut the phone lines. Problem solved.
Trump building a much closer relationship with Silicon Valley also curbed the negative coverage, given that virtually every major news organization is now owned or administered by a tech company. So you’re not seeing “madman” coverage anymore, thanks to Trump’s move to cozy up with the people who run the news business. But it wasn’t abnormal to read about it five years ago.
After that, I’m not sure what you’re asking for.
Well, wouldn’t say I’m “asking,” because you & I already know the answer is no. Sanewashing is all we’ll get, with Trump’s meandering statements and destructive policies presented blandly. Months and months of his tariff pronouncements, with media rarely mentioning that they’re illegal; his routine insults and firings for blacks and women, without mentioning in the headline or paragraph one that the insults and firings are wildly black- and woman-centered; all his daily drivel on Truth Social, without saying in plain English that it’s crazy.
Your listed links are all op-eds or reports quoting someone, but America needs to hear Trump is a madman as news coverage, not a column or commentary. It’s not an opinion; Trump is a madman, ipso facto pepto bismo. Facts ought to be reported factually.
Months and months of his tariff pronouncements, with media rarely mentioning that they’re illegal;
I mean, they’re not illegal in any material sense. Even when the SCOTUS finally got off it’s ass to give a ruling (5-4) they didn’t actually establish a way for anyone to get their money back
Your listed links are all op-eds or reports quoting someone
That’s all modern journalism is anymore.
Tariffs are a Congressional function. They’ve handed limited tariff authority to the White House, pre-Trump, but Trump’s tariffs are beyond those bounds, and were illegal via common sense long before the Supremes heard the case.
Tariffs are a Congressional function. They’ve handed limited tariff authority
Like so much else, they’re functions that the legislature has empowered the executive to administer.
Congress hates doing anything. And so we’ve spent decades vesting more and more power into the President, creating the modern day unitary executive.
And I’ve always wondered … why?
The Congressional habit of yielding power seems so at odds with… everything I’ve ever seen and (pretend to) understand about human nature.
How dare you criticize Our Beloved DNC? Don’t you know Democrats expect OBDNC (obediency)? Our Beloved Do Nothing Cowards are exactly what will save everyone, just send all your money & this time we’ll finally stop Trump. But if you’re not obedient & say anything bad about Democrats then we’ll call you MAGA or a Russian bot.
Let’s explain this using little words to make sure you understand.
- There are a lot of individuals on the internet who have different opinions. It is true that some people say those things, but certainly not all.
- The time to pick the candidate you want is in the primary. If you don’t like any of the candidates, run for office or find someone to run for office because that’s your shot at representation.
- When it comes to the general election, not voting for Democrats IS literally helping the fascists get elected. So that part of what “people are saying” is spot on.
Did you - assuming you are a US citizen - vote for Kamala in the last general election? If not, then your lack of voting for the only option to stop Trump means you help elect Trump. That’s simple truth.
Did I like Kamala? Not particularly. As a progressive, very very few Democrats represent me. Most of them are centrists.
But you know what I like about Kamala? Not a fucking fascist.
So to anyone who didn’t vote for her who had the opportunity: Part of the blood on Trump’s hands also belongs on yours because you had the power to help stop his election and failed.
Does that mean I support the Democrats? Hardly. But as compared to supporting fascists, you bet your ass I do.
Go fuck yourself, Doug.
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