• socsa@piefed.social
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      It still happens, the modern standards just handle these impairments better with line coding, active equalization, and more sensitive modem electronics. And obviously now we have shielding requirements in the PHY for 2.5G and above. But basically as DSP got cheaper and more compact, they were able to throw more compute at the problem which made a huge difference.

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      3 hours ago

      I don’t think I’ve seen a single data cable that didn’t have some kinda shielding since the early nineties.

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        Most ethernet cable is UTP, literally “unshielded twisted pair.” Shielded cable is much more expensive and less physically flexible due to the metal jackets, so people dont tend to buy it by default.

        You can argue the jacket is shielding, but mostly ethernet cable is not shielded. The braiding will cause problems, but likely very minor ones based on the length of the the run that CRC will compensate for.

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            Yes, in theory. But in practice it depends on the frequencies.
            Even if interference is insignificant, looping the wires around a metal core (which braiding does) creates a different impedance and can degrade the signal.

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          Granted I’m no network engineer. But I have made many of my own cat5’s through the years and I have not seen one since I was unable to legally drive.