I mean…those are not prices the market will pay so I guess rip console market?
I guess it’s finally time to tackle my backlog.
Personally I don’t need better graphics, PS4/PS5 level is already great. Developers can do pretty much everything they can imagine.
I’m for cheaper, more accessible hardware.
PS5 was too much day one at £400 and it’s only gone up since. What happened to the days of sub-£200 consoles later in their lifespan?
AI datacenters and greed.
I think the problem might sort itself out once the data centers are actually built. The impact from maintaining a data center is probably less than from actually building one.
If they allowed to build all the data centers around me, hardware be less of our issues. We want have any water left in our homes. They literally trying to build 26 of these fucking water draining things in our area.
No it’s gonna suck. Those data centers will consume fresh water and power driving up costs of both over the long term.
The chips will also become obsolete or will degrade over time. After 7 years they will require replacement. Same is true with memory and ram.
It’s never going to end.
Increased demand translates to increased memory and ram production capacity?
Yes and no. Production capacity takes a long time to build up in manufacturing. Plus these are specialized parts so the build up will take longer. Don’t expect a significant production capacity increase in the US for 5-10 years.
I wonder who they’re trying to sell these to. Back in 2002 the Xbox cost 480e and it was already very expensive. The 360 was cheaper at release already (400e). Fast forward 25 years, salaries are the same and hardware costs… double? The math doesn’t work out
That’d be quite high compared to historical inflation-adjusted launch prices.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/game-console-launch-prices-adjusted-for-inflation-1975-2024/
Game Console Launch Prices Adjusted for Inflation (1975-2024)
https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/995e4917-5bb0-4dee-8b7d-f43e8ef21d62.webp
This is becoming my default position for so many things now it’s ridiculous.
My Xbox One was not worth $500 at all, ever during its lifespan. My Series X is solely a 360 Pro. I think I’m done with these. How the mighty have fallen.
Maybe the Gabecube will launch with a “console price” after all.
I’m kinda hoping valve waits for component costs to calm down before releasing it - otherwise I could see the price making it DOA.
I imagine it won’t do console numbers, but I’m sure there will be enough fans and early adopters to justify the added expense of a 2026 launch. However, I’d like to think the popularity will grow organically as the system gets older and prices start dropping again.
I will not pay $1000 for a console alone. I would buy a gaming PC for 4x that first. And I’m exactly their target market.
There’s literally enough in my PC backlog for the rest of my life probably, don’t need another new console, game or graphics card, ever.
Famous last words, now your RAM and GPU are going to fail
I’ve got like 30 years worth of PC parts laying around, I’m sure I can cobble something together 😁 sometimes it pays to be a packrat.
As a long time PS customer, the Steam Deck has been probably the smartest/luckiest impulse purchase I’ve made. I used to not have a PC backlog, but now I own a PC port of pretty much all my favorite console games PS4 and backwards, among others, and the majority of those purchases have fallen under the “might-as-well-at-that-price” category of expense. I’ve been playing on Deck nearly every day since I got it and have only scratched the surface of library I’ve built since buying it.
Between Humble Bundles and Fanatical I’ve got more games than I can play in a year for less than a single new release. It’s amazing.
I pray for immaculate memtests on us all for all eternity.
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Seriously, anything after 2015 has perfect graphics, I don’t need slightly more realistic hair or whatever. Even a lot of 2010 is enjoyable. And this is only about graphics quality. For gameplay, story etc, you know shit actually matters, there already is way more than I can play.
This news coming on the back of the Switch 2 sales suffering is certainly one of the decisions of all time.
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Nintendo Switch 2 Production Cut 33% Following Weak Holiday Sales, Report Claims
Nintendo has reportedly cut back on manufacturing Switch 2 consoles following weaker than expected holiday sales for the console.
That’s according to Bloomberg, whose sources say Nintendo now expects to make 4 million Switch 2 units this quarter, down 33% on the 6 million it previously planned to manufacture.
Nintendo recently confirmed it had sold fewer Switch 2 consoles internationally over the holiday period than it had once hoped, particularly in the U.S. — though the impact of this had also been dulled somewhat by stronger sales in its homeland of Japan.
Haha ok buddy, can’t wait to see you puzzling about why millennials hate game consoles or whatever when launch sales numbers are rightly in the shitter
Yeah, feels like the correct move here would be to hold off with the next generation, if you can’t get enough of a performance jump without increasing prices. Otherwise you’re just offering a premium edition.
Hope they know, you don’t have to launch a console every half dozen years. Could just hold off and y’know, not for a while. A long while.
I know it’s because I’m getting old, but it seems like PS5 just came out. But part of it too is diminishing returns on tech advances. The difference is more and more negligible every gen. And that’s for AAA; for most developers on real-world budgets, I doubt many are even hitting console power bottlenecks.
- The price Sony and MS pay for RAM will keep going up regardless of whether there is a hardware refresh or not. So keeping the old version won’t keep consumer costs down. If they don’t refresh the cost increases will just look sillier.
- They avoid having to search for time on older process nodes while fabs try to migrate to newer ones by updating periodically.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninth_generation_of_video_game_consoles
The ninth generation of video game consoles began in November 2020 with the releases of Microsoft’s Xbox Series X and Series S console family and Sony’s PlayStation 5.[1][2][3]
The duration from the eighth generation until the start of the ninth was one of the longest in history, having started in 2012 with the release of Nintendo’s Wii U. Past generations typically had five-year windows as a result of Moore’s law,[10] but Microsoft and Sony instead launched mid-console redesigns, the Xbox One X and PlayStation 4 Pro.[11] Microsoft also launched a monthly console lease program, with the option to buy or upgrade.[12] Some analysts believed these factors signaled the first major shift away from the idea of console generations because the potential technical gains of new hardware had become nominal.[13]
The eighth generation video game console period ran for about eight years, so there’d be precedent for the ninth generation consoles to do the same, which would take us to a 2028 release date for the tenth generation.
I seriously wonder if they’d be better off just deferring the next console generation until 2028.
There was 9 years between the release of the 360 and the Xbox One. Might was well do the same thing this generation.
Okay, I guess it’s PC then.
Stares at RAM and GPU prices
laughs in old ebay acquisitions and retro games
You’re sitting on a gold mine - first DDR6/HBM, then DDR5, then DDR4 got expensive. If trends continue, somewhere around 2028 you’ll be able to sell that desoldered 128KB of SNES RAM for a fortune.
Hoping DDR3 prices go up so I can finally sell the 128 GB of RAM I have been saving “just in case” lol
You don’t have to play current gen AAA games. They are crazy expensive anyway.
I got my new gaming laptop during black friday sales, a few weeks before the AIpocalypse started. The exact laptop I got then is now 400 euro more!
