A social network founded by a former OpenAI employee was caught importing public posts from Mastodon...and ran AI analysis to add tags to them.

Maven, a new social network backed by OpenAI’s Sam Altman, found itself in a controversy today when it imported a huge amount of posts and profiles from the Fediverse, and then ran AI analysis to alter the content.

  • verstraEnglish
    163·
    5 months ago

    Oh shit, the persona guy was right! We should all be adding license to our comments, so could not legally train model that are then used for commercial purposes.

    • Pennomi@lemmy.worldEnglish
      18·
      5 months ago

      The easiest way is a sitewide NoAI meta tag, since it’s the current standard. Researchers are much more likely to respect a common standard and extremely unlikely to respect a single user’s personal solution adding a link to their comments.

      • iAvicenna@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        5 months ago

        I feel like the bad thing about this is, whereas the researchers will mostly respect this, companies who want to make money out of data will still secretly keep using the data anyways. I am more ok with the data being used for non-profit research and not for making money but this would likely have the opposite effect.

        • Pennomi@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          5 months ago

          If that’s truly the case, nothing on earth can protect your data.

          That being said, large corporations are far more liable to consumer protection lawsuits, especially in areas like the EU.

          • iAvicenna@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            5 months ago

            They also have enough lawyer power to find loop holes. Stuff like if your main compute cluster is in xyz state or in xyz islands then you can get away with a fine the fraction what you can make with this data.

      • onlinepersonaEnglish
        81·
        5 months ago

        Thanks for linking me 🙏 The makers of Maven probably set off a bomb now and people might ask for anti-AI features on the clients and servers.

        Anti Commercial-AI license

      • onlinepersonaEnglish
        43·
        5 months ago

        Why do you think it won’t hold water legally? There’s a case going right now against Github Copilot for scraping GPL licences code, even spitting it back out verbatim, and not making “open” AI actually open.

        Creative Commons is not a joke licence. It actually is used by artists, authors, and other creative types.

        Imagine Maven or another company doing the same shit they just did and it coming to light there were a bunch of noncommercially licences content in there. The authors could band together for a class action lawsuit and sue their asses. Given the reaction of users here and on mastodon, I wouldn’t even be surprised if it did happen.

        Anti Commercial-AI license

          • Venia Silente@lemm.eeEnglish
            21·
            5 months ago

            Don’t we also need a critical mass of people adding licenses to posts? So that a class action suit can be launched. Because it would be inviable and a very rapid path to self-defeat if people started to try and individually sue big corpo.

            Also I’m missing a way to automatically add this to my posts. Something like a browser extension.

            This post is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0.

              • Venia Silente@lemm.eeEnglish
                21·
                5 months ago

                Also for me I’m using a text expander so that after I type a shortcut it automatically adds the rest of the text for me.

                I request of you, show me your ways!

                • Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                  21·
                  5 months ago

                  Well on firefox/chrome extensions you can search for text expander and choose an extension that works for you.

                  Or if you are using a phone you can do the same on the app store and I think there should be a few options.

                  Once you download one of them it should give instructions on how to use it, but in general it asks you to create a phrase that you want to be automatically triggered and a shorter phrase that automatically replaced with the longer phrase.

                  For example-

                  long phrase: The quick brown fox jumped over the moon.

                  short phrase: /qfox

                  and every time you typed /qfox it would replace it with “The quick brown fox jumped over the moon.”

                  Anti Commercial-AI license (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)

    • onlinepersonaEnglish
      43·
      5 months ago

      It’s especially for these kinds of dumb cases where they simply copy content wholesale and boast about it. With more people licencing their contents as non commercial, the “hot water” these companies get in could not just be trivial but actually legal.

      Would be great if web and mobile clients supported signatures or a “licence” field from which signatures were generated. Even better would be if people smarter than me added a feature to poison AI training data. This could also be done by a signature or some other method.

      Anti Commercial-AI license

      • TheGalacticVoid@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        5 months ago

        I don’t know; AFAIK, Reddit successfully argued that they own Wallstreetbets’ trademarks in court. That might void all of these licenses depending on the ToS of the instance being used.