• butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world
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      16 days ago

      That’s true, but i don’t know if it’s fair to say that mandating employee ownership is anything other than socialist. Not Marxist, sure. Certainly leftist. But isn’t employee ownership and governance of the means of production, by definition, socialism?

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          Socialism has other elements

          I think your argument might be more convincing if you actually mentioned these elements.

          Marx did not think it was socialism

          Other people had other definitions even before Marx, so I’m not sure why his should be the only valid definition.

          Just my two cents.

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          Ah I see. I definitely have more learning to do than. In that case how is libertarian socialism socialism? Doesn’t that definition invalidate basically everything but vanguardism?