why? because it’s not triggering an obscure anti cheat on a game I’ve been playing when using wine (performance is still the same tho), everything else is just work no missing dependencies and it’s doesn’t get in my way like other distros (I tried Arch, Opensuse, Ubuntu, Debian), just to clarify I’m a complete noob when it come to Linux so maybe if I know better I probably make everything works just like Fedora

  • huginn@feddit.it
    221·
    7 months ago

    I can’t install fedora because they require you to have a mouse connected by cable to your computer to install.

    It’s absurd. I only have a Bluetooth mouse and you can’t get to the Bluetooth connect screen. So Mint it was.

    I even saw someone complaining about this on the fedora forum and the response was totally “Do you not have mice?” energy.

    • spartanatreyu
      8·
      7 months ago

      What stopped the install process working without a mouse?

      Surely they’d have a keyboard navigation method.

      • huginn@feddit.it
        62·
        7 months ago

        They do… For the first screen of the welcome page only. When it gets to connect WiFi the keyboard nav is broken. Tabbing doesn’t work.

        Beyond that if you hit alt F4 to close the welcome page you get to your desktop, but Fedora doesn’t come with any predefined hotkeys (or at least none of them worked on Fedora 39, if there were any - it might have been part of the welcome screen). So I couldn’t open up a terminal or anything to actually get to useful controls.

        After an hour of fighting with this and seeing useless forum posts I scrapped it and installed Mint, where they actually bothered to let you open up Bluetooth connection management with only a keyboard.

        • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          4·
          7 months ago

          You could’ve shifted into tty mode from there I think, but they don’t have a hotkey for a terminal emulator up. You probably also could’ve just hit the super key and used the search bar for “ter-” and it’ll pull it up, hit enter, and it’ll launch. Personally if none of that worked I would’ve went to walmart and bought the cheapest little logitec mouse with a usb dongle or borrowed one from work for a few days because they’re cool like that.

          Of course, you shouldn’t have to find a work around even if there are some, so there’s that too.

          • huginn@feddit.it
            22·
            7 months ago

            In theory super + term should’ve worked but in reality super didn’t open up search.

            It was incredibly cursed.

            Ultimately Mint was 0 effort so I’ll be sticking with it. It’s only a little toy laptop anyways.

            • refalo
              21·
              7 months ago

              laptop

              couldn’t you have just used the laptop’s built-in pointing device, plugged in a wired mouse or paired BT via console… instead of dying on this hill?

              • spartanatreyu
                23·
                7 months ago

                That’s an obviously poor take. If only laptop users could get past the screen then it’s still broken.

                • refalo
                  12·
                  7 months ago

                  None of the options I gave are exclusive to laptops.

              • huginn@feddit.it
                12·
                7 months ago

                1. It was a mainboard not a full laptop. No built in pointing device.

                2. Couldn’t open the console because fedora would not accept any keystrokes to open terminal.

                3. I don’t have a USB c mouse.

                The only way to fix this would be purchasing a USB c mouse. I’m not installing fedora to pay more.

            • Hammerheart
              1·
              7 months ago

              If this ever happens to you again, you can try doing ctrl + alt + < F1 - F12>. That will bring up different screens/terminals and its so baked into linux it might have still worked even in that broken state. Still bonkers the installer didn’t accept keyboars info though. Its ironic because so much of my linux experience has been about reducing mouse/touchpad use.

              • huginn@feddit.it
                11·
                7 months ago

                It didn’t work. I tried so many different options. I got to the point where I was facerolling the keyboard with all sorts of different options.

                This is something acknowledged by Fedora devs: It’s not my imagination.

                Here’s the link

    • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      616·
      7 months ago

      I can’t imagine not having a plethora of mice and keyboards in PS/2, USB, wireless, and BT varieties. Like an unnecessary amount.

        • szczuroarturo
          32·
          7 months ago

          Corded maybe. But most of wireless mouses even today come with little usb dongle and that should work. Only the bluetooth one dosent apparently. Which makes sense. I mean why would it work out of the box with your computer.

      • JackbyDevEnglish
        21·
        7 months ago

        You think people have multiple PS/2 mice in 2024?

        • lost_faith@lemmy.ca
          1·
          7 months ago

          Some of us don’t throw out old stuff just cause it is old, lol, my closet is angry with me cries in 486

          • JackbyDevEnglish
            1·
            7 months ago

            Sure, but even folks who hoard stuff might be old enough to have never had one. Even at 32 I’ve never had one before. My dad might have one somewhere though.

          • refalo
            1·
            7 months ago

            many people don’t even own a usb mouse.

            I consider myself a huge nerd but I would be surprised if I even still have a ps/2 mouse somewhere.

            • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              1·
              7 months ago

              Maybe I’m just old, then. I have every type of tech I would possibly need to troubleshoot any machine I could imagine… thinking about throwing away my parallel cables, I’m like “what if an HP Laserjet Series II needs help?!”

  • Mikina
    6·
    7 months ago

    I have a Nvidia gpu and I did run into issues on Fedora with drivers and cutscenes, switching from Gnome to KDE and wayland to X11 fixed some problems, but I fidn’t manage to get it to work properly and have given up in a few weeks.

    However, I switched to Nobara which is based on Fedora and handles the gaming related configuration for you, and so far O’ve had a great experience without any issues for half a year already, so if gaming is what you’re primarily after, I’d recommend going with Nobara.

    • racsol
      1·
      7 months ago

      For Nobara, which would you say it’s the best (DE + X11/Wayland) setup for an Nvidia GPU?

      • Mikina
        2·
        7 months ago

        I preffer KDE and use x11. Wayland is getting better with nvidia, but I still had some bugs with taskbar freezing often when I first tried it, so I just switched to X11. I haven’t tested it recently though, so it may be OK now.

  • refalo
    4·
    7 months ago

    I think Bazzite or Nobara is easier for casual gamers that just want things to work

  • embed_me
    1·
    7 months ago

    Which Steam package did you install? I remember tried the rpm package from the software store and encountered problems.