• lurklurk@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    Hello World

    30 minutes of boilerplate

    writing imports

    $ cat <<EOF > Hello.java
    public class Hello {
      public static void main(String args[]) {
        System.out.println("Hello world!");
      }
    }
    EOF
    $ java Hello.java
    Hello world!
    

    ok

    • JackbyDev
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      8 hours ago

      This is getting a little better nowadays.

      > cat Hello.java
      void main() {
          System.out.println("Hello, World!");
      }
      > java --enable-preview Hello.java
      Hello, World!
      

      Things to notice:

      1. No compilation step.
      2. No class declaration.
      3. Main method is not public static
      4. No String[] args.

      This still uses preview features though. However, like you demonstrated already, compilation is no longer a required step for simplistic programs like this.

      • مهما طال الليل@lemm.ee
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        Main method is not public static

        It must be somewhere under the hood. Otherwise, it wont be callable and it would require an instance of an object to call. Unless the object here is the Java environment?

        No String[] args

        They are just optional I’m sure, like C and C++. You still need them to read command line arguments.

        All in all, these syntax improvements are welcome. I already moved on to Kotlin for Android development though.

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        5 hours ago

        Microsoft Java is a one-liner these days.

        > cat program.cs
        Console.WriteLine("Hello, World!");
        > dotnet run
        Hello, World!
        
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        C:

        #include <stdio.h>
        
        int main() {
            printf("Hello World!");
            return(0);
        }
        

        EDIT: POSIX-compatible shell:

        echo "Hello World!"
        
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      12 hours ago

      Welcome to java, we have a couple unconventional ways of doing things, but overall I’m like every other mainstream oo language.

      People: AHH! Scary!

      Welcome to python. your knowledge of me wont help you elsewhere as my syntax is purposefully obtuse and unique. Forget about semicolons, one missed space and your code is as worthless as you after learning this language.

      People: Hello based department

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        11 hours ago

        Oh my god I got fucked by a python script once because of a single space. It took forever to figure out what went wrong

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          I refuse to code in Python without a really good IDE and linting like PyCharm. When using PyCharm it’s very rare I have issues like this, because it catches them in one way or another, but I notice it catches those kinds of issues a lot when I’m coding soooooooo…

          I have also setup the IDE to specifically color code comments like

          ’ # End If and ’ # Next

          in the same style as their beginning statements as I find it much easier to visually scam through code when they are present.

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        8 hours ago

        **kwargs

        “No, I don’t use type annotations because they don’t actually do anything. In fact I purposefully give this parameter different types for different behaviors. How is that confusing?”

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        12 hours ago

        Python has its drawbacks but it also has a pretty useful standard library so as a language for small scripts, one can do much worse

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      I got the impression they skipped the hello world cause it was too easy and they wanted to get right to writing their app, so they moved on to more advanced stuff without having a real grasp of the basics