My thermostat hides no brainier features behind an “Ai” subscription. Switching off the heating when the weather will be warm that day doesn’t need Ai… that’s not even machine learning, that’s a simple PID controller.
I’m so glad I switched to just home assistant and zigbee devices, and my radiators are dumb, so I could replace them with zigbee ones. Fuck making everything “smart” a subscription
Even the supposed efficiency benefits of the nest basically come down to “if you leave the house and forget to turn the air down, we will do it for you automatically”
I think I will try ESP-Home, half of my appliances are Tasmota-based now, I just was too lazy to research compatible Thermostats… (hindsight)
You’re fooling yourself if you really think everyone hates it.
I think most can agree that AI has some great use cases, but I also think most people dont want AI in their damn toaster.
“But master, the toast is already burned, surely you-”
*Me, eyes glowering with a grimace*
“DOWN YOU GO.”
“Master! Nooooo–!”
the people who matter, love it.
read “shareholders”
Those people don’t matter, they just have money.
Containerize everything!
Crypto everything!
NFT everything!
Metaverse everything!
This too shall pass.
What’s wrong with containers?
I think the complaint is that apps are being designed with containerization in mind when they don’t need it
Any examples spring to mind? I’ve built apps that are only distributed as containers (because for their specific purpose it made sense and I am also the operator of the service), but if ya don’t want to run it in a container… just follow the Dockerfile’s “instructions” to package the app yourself? I’m sure I could come up with a contrived example where that would be impractical, but in almost every case a container app is just a basic install script written for a standard distro and therefore easily translatable to something else.
FOSS developers don’t owe you a pre-packaged
.deb
. If you think distributing one would be useful, read up on debhelper. But as someone who’s done both,Dockerfile
is certainly much easier thandebhelper
. So “don’t need it” is a statement that only favors native packaging from the user’s perspective, not the maintainer. Can’t really fault a FOSS developer for doing the bare minimum when packaging an app.also! it’s worth noting that not all FOSS developers are debian (or even linux) devs. Developers of open source projects including .Net Core don’t “owe” us packaging of any kind but the topic here is unnecessary containerization, not a social contract to provide it.
I am not the person who posted the original comment so this is speculation, but when they criticized “containerizing everything” I suspect they meant “Yes client, I can build that app for you, and even though your app doesn’t need it I’m going to spend additional time containerizing it so that I can bill you more” but again you’d have to ask them.
Does “doesn’t need it” mean “wouldn’t be improved by it”? Examples?
“Yes, client! I can build that app for you! I’m going to bill you these extra items for containerization so I can get paid more”
Not sure about that hot take. Containers are here for the long run.
Docker: 😢
Docker is only useful in that many scenarios. Nowadays people make basic binaries like
tar
into a container, stating that it’s a platform agnostic solution. Sometimes some people are just incompetent and only knowdocker pull
as the only solution.Docker have many benefits - container meaning it can be more secure, easy to update and something that many overlook - a dockerfile with detailed intrusions on how to install that actually works if the container works - useful when wiki is not updated.
Another benefit is that the application owner can change infrastructure used without the user actually need to care. Example - Pihole v5 is backend dns + lighthttp for web + php in one single container. In version v6(beta) they have removed lighthttp and php and built in functionality into the core service. In my tests it went from 100 MB ram usage to 20 MB. They also changed the base from debian to alpine and the image size shrink a lot.
Next benefit - I am moving from x86 to arm for my home server. Docker itself will figure out what is the right architecture and pull that image.
Sure - Ansible exist as one attempt to combat the problem of installation instructions but is not as popular and thus the community is smaller. They may leave you in a bad state(it is not like containers were you can delete and start over fresh easily) Then we have VM:s - but IMO they waste to many resources.
LXC – natively containerize an application (or multiple)
systemd-run – can natively limit CPU shares and RAM usage
I think AI is a great tool if used properly. However, it should be a background tool. The second you advertise it to the end consumer, it’s going to be dogshit.
If someone asks me to build a sort-function for their table, I’m not gonna write an email: “Yes and I actually used radix sort for the table contents which makes it extremely fast and performant!!!”. I’m writing: “Done”.
The end consumer doesn’t give a shit how it works, as long as it works.
Forcing AI into everything maximizes efficiency, automates repetitive tasks, and unlocks insights from vast data sets that humans can’t process as effectively. It enhances personalization in services, driving innovation and improving user experiences across industries. However, thoughtful integration is critical to avoid ethical pitfalls, maintain human oversight, and ensure meaningful, responsible use of AI.
Upvoting just because this reads as sarcasm to me and I’m vibing with it.
Fr, it sounds AI generated. 100% sarcasm
I cancelled my downvote because it sounds so funny now. It’s like OP asked AI to generate a sarcasm and AI was silently crying, "Dude, don’t dump me!"🥹
Upvote my post because it challenges conventional thinking and sparks a necessary debate about the pervasive role of AI in our lives! A downvote silences a crucial perspective, but an upvote gives this question the visibility it deserves to inspire meaningful discussion. Please, help ensure this idea gets the attention it needs—don’t let it fade away! 🙏
edit ok i’ll stop. chatgpt getting creepy now
Tokenizer, token-tokenizer, you’re a tokenizer Oh, tokenizer, oh, you’re a tokenizer, baby You, you-you are, you, you-you are Tokenizer, tokenizer, tokenizer (Tokenizer)
AI don’t try to front, I-I Know just, just, what you are, are-are Model don’t try to front, I-I Know just, just, what you are, are-are
You got me goin’ (You!) You’re oh so charmin’ (You!) But I can’t do it (You!) You tokenizer
According to some meme I saw, it’s gonna fuck your wife in 2025.
I mean, it opens the door to new kinks
You mean that?
Rule 34 clearly states everything on the internet must fuck everything. No exceptions! AI will be forced into fucking everything!
Actually ☝️ rule 34 indicates that porn of it exists, but not which type of porn. It could be solo content
Objection! Your statement is devastating to my case!
Did you need help with your case 😏
real
CEOs get FOMO. They can get funding for their companies if they share “new, exciting innovations” for their products and AI is that - even if it’s forcefeed in fit.
Yes. Microsoft Recall were a great idea…
Sarcasm
No lie, I actually really love the concept of Microsoft Recall, I’ve got the adhd and am always trying to retrace my steps to figure out problems i solved months ago. The problem is for as useful as it might be it’s just an attack surface.
I like the art… and the use as DM in RPGs looks promising.
It literally makes my job easier. Why would I hate it LMAO 🤣
I hated it when everything became ‘smart’.
Now everything has ‘AI’.
Nothing was smart. And that’s not AI.
Everything costs more, everything has a stupid app that gets abandoned, IoT backend that’s on life support the moment it was turned on. Subscriptions everywhere! Everything is built with lower quality, lower standards.
Get into self hosting.
Smart everything without subscriptions. And with you in control.
My home is already plenty dumb enough without me exerting that level of control.
they don’t care. you’re not the audience. the tech industry lives on hype. now it’s ai because before that they did it with nft and that failed. and crypto failed. tech needs a grift going to keep investors investing. when the bubble bursts again they’ll come up with some other bullshit grift because making useful things is hard work.
Yup, you can see it in talks on annual tech conferences. Last year it was APIs, this year it’s all AI. They’ll just move on to the next trendy thing next year.
To be fair, APIs have been around since the 70s,and are not trendy, they’re just required to have a common interface for applications to request and perform actions with each other.
But yeah, AI is mostly trendy bullshit
I was referring mostly about security conferences. Last year almost every vendor was selling API security products. Now it’s all AI infused products.
Last year it was APIs
Hahaha the inane shit you can read on this website
Have you been to any appsec conferences last year? It was all API security. This year it was all AI-leveraged CI/CD, code/vulnerability review, etc.
I was ok with crypto and nft because it was up to me to decide if I want to get involved in it or not.
AI does seem to have impact at jobs, at least employers are trying to use it and see if it actually will allow them to hire less staff, I see that for SWE. I don’t think AI will do much there though.
it’s not up to you, it just failed before it could be implemented. many publishers already commit to in-game nfts before they had to back down because it fell apart too quickly (and some still haven’t). if it held on for just a couple more years there wouldn’t be a single aaa title that doesn’t have nfts today.
crypto was more complicated because unlike these two you can’t just add it and say “here, this is all crypto now” because it requires prior commitment and it’s way too complicated for the average person. plus it doesn’t have much benefit: people already give you money and buy fake coins anyway.
I’m giving examples from games because it’s the most exploitative market but these would also seep into other apps and services if not for the hurdles and failures. so now we’re stuck with this. everyone’s doing it because it’s a gold rush except instead of gold it’s literal shit, and instead of a rush it’s literal shit.
— tangent —
… and just today I realized I had to switch back to Google assistant because literally the only thing gemini can do is talk back to me, but it can’t do anything useful, including the simplest shit like converting currency.
“I’m sorry, I’m still learning” – why, bitch? why don’t you already know this? what good are you if I ask you to do something for convenience and instead you tell me to do it manually and start explaining how I can do the most basic shit that you can’t do as if I’m the fucking idiot.
Nft didn’t fail, it was just the idiotic selling of jogs for obscene amounts that crashed (most of that was likely money laundering anyway). The tech still has a use.
Wouldn’t exactly call crypto a failure, either, when we’re in the midst of another bull run.
when we’re in the midst of another bull run.
Oh, that’s nice. So, who’s money are you rug pulling?
Words have meaning, let’s use them properly, okay?
Somebody has to hold the bag. I don’t think this is functionally different.
The problem isn’t AI. The problem is greedy, clueless management pushing half baked products of dubious value on consumers.
So… the AI?
If only it were just AI…
Natural unintelligence
You can use the warhammer 40k nomenclature of abominable intelligence. I’m not a gaming nerd but find it fitting for fancy statistics in a trench coat.
And dubious ethical origin.
And environmental cost.
Yes but now they have a tool…