BYD took the global EV crown. Now Chinese rivals and local startups are taking over emerging markets.


  • Tesla’s sales are dropping globally, with political headwinds and fierce EV rivals throwing up challenges.
  • New frontiers beckon, but Tesla faces a showdown with savvy local and Chinese competitors vying for dominance.
  • Pricing battles and rapid innovation are putting Tesla to the test, demanding a strategic jolt to regain its edge.
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    2 hours ago

    The article should just be “This Guy” followed by photos of Elon doing his thing for the last year or so.

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    5 hours ago

    If the owner of the company wasn’t trying to heil a cab on the national stage, people wouldn’t be doubting these EVs nearly as much.

    Not that they’re particularly high quality anyway.

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    5 hours ago

    Even if it weren’t for all the political stuff Tesla’s are just not very good cars, combined with a truly awful customer service experience.

    I have no idea what BYD’s customer service experiences like but the fact that the cars seem to have actually gone through some kind of QA means that they can only be an improvement

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      True, I can’t imagine buying a used Tesla knowing that I’d still have to make monthly payments to keep some features.

      I’m honestly surprised there isn’t a jailbreak community that completely replaces the Tesla OS with something else.

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      12 hours ago

      Poor Elon simply gave his heart and love to the world by raising his right arm at a 45° angle after tapping his left boob. He did nazi anything wrong with that.

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        10 hours ago

        The excuse his enablers give is absurd. Ask yourself what’s worse: give a Nazi salute on TV or doing a gesture the entire world knows as a Nazi salute on TV and not realizing it? They’re both bad enough that he shouldn’t be in charge of a lemonade stand.

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          Anyone arguing that Musk didn’t know exactly what he was doing is just another Nazi pissing in the wind and they all deserve every bit of blow back they get, pun intended.

          The only thing Musk didn’t understand is that he was branding himself and everything he touches as nothing more than Nazi scum for the rest of his miserable life.

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    12 hours ago

    Tesla hasn’t lost it in 2025, but much earlier.

    For example, when they stopped maintaining and improving their successful Model 3 and Model Y, because the ugly tinbox “needed” all research and development resources.

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      10 hours ago

      This is exactly it. Instead of focusing on refining and renewing their products, Tesla burned billions on self-driving, while simultaneously hamstringing themselves by removing radar and lidar. That’s before the cybertruck and roadster 2 interfered.

      Lucid, from what I can tell, has done this work. Their new motors are the size of a carryon. The interior volume is enormous. That’s what the flagships should be like at Tesla, but they screwed up.

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        8 hours ago

        That’s because Tesla’s stock valuation was always based on “revolutionary new shiny thing!” rather than “making and selling cars”.

        musk has to constantly come out with a new reason why the stock justifies a valuation so insanely high (was worth more than all other car companies combined). “Full self driving!” “Robotaxies!” “Fully automated manufacturing!”, etc….

        That’s also why musk can extort $50B payoffs from Tesla. So much of their value is based on his BS powered reality distortion field that they’re terrified of what might happen if he leaves.

        Now, there’s huge risk inherent in banking everything on the very stable genius musk as they’re learning.

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      For sure.

      A Model 3 from early 2024 really feels 5-10 years behind a 2026 Kia or Hyundai at this point.

      They lost the plot big time somewhere around mid-2022 I think. Would be interesting to learn if Elon started some new designer drug or something around then.

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      I’ll say it happen when Musk got involved with production as he thought he will disrupt manufacturing by heavily relying in automation, disregarding what every manufacturing expert had told him that it ain’t that easy.

      He fumbled the ball hard and IMO that was the beginning of the end of Tesla’s hegemony, where they started making serious quality mistakes and dropped finishing quality as well.

      That said, I’m not sure if they ever had any to begin with, but for a while customers valued that brand very highly, even being on waiting lists for months.

      To me, this was the Jets’ Butt Fumble of car manufacturing.

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    11 hours ago

    Yeah no I’m not switching out reliance on US cloud services with … Chinese.

    Replaced my Tesla with a Volkswagen ID.7. Recommended.

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      10 hours ago

      Tourer?

      Vws are overpriced and a bit lackluster these days, I got a KIA.

      Does your car have an annoying warning about the rules of the road when you start it, that requires a button press to confirm?

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        The VW ID.7 is about the same cost as a Tesla Model 3 and its size and features are more like the Model S. I was early so I have the sedan, a friend has the tourer though and loves it.

        No such warning, at least not here in Sweden/Europe.

        I looked at the Kia EV9 but it was a lot more expensive, also, we didn’t get the swivel seats here. They had to be bolted stuck in forward position :(

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          Honestly just in terms of performance the Tesla beats out vw. the performance model at 50k USD gets a sub 3 second 0 to 60. Biggest issue is that it’s not in the states yet

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            Absolutely. The Model 3 was fun to drive in a carting way. The ID.7 is comfortable to drive long distances in.

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          I’m in Europe too, the notification is so annoying it requires a touch of the screen to confirm acknowledgement of the careful driving or some such bs. Mine is only a Niro, but it is lovely and quite roomy. Costs 45k here in Ireland.

          If I went VW it would be ID7. I think some of the established brands like VW and Toyota let their internal design slack in recent times, I’d be happy to se they have corrected course.

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            7 hours ago

            often times if you ask a service manager at a dealership, they are able to disable such warning screens, you might have to sign a legal waiver for it.

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            Yeah the ID.7 is the first on VWs “new platform”. IIRC they’re going to refresh the other models now too.

            Going from Tesla to VW was very refreshing. To start with it’s now possible to trust the expected range given. The Tesla lied its heart out.

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      I had a 99 Jetta that was a rolling trash bag. I also worked valet where I drove Audis and BMWs. I wouldn’t take a German car even if it was free. For me the best cars I’ve owned have been Hondas. I had 2 civics and an accord that were 🤌