I’m pretty sure “Spice Melange” is trolling. Idk how someone would understand and enjoy the plot of Dune (assuming the book because IDK if they even used that term in the movies) with this poor of an understanding of how trade works.
There is a whole SouthPark episode about Tom Bradys poop where they repetitively use the term.
They definitely used the term in the Lynch movie, but if you can follow that plot you may be even smarter than a reader of the book heh
He who controls the Spice controls the Universe.
Honestly the fact that this fake news got going makes no sense to me. If you even atop for a second to think about how tarrifs are collected you’d know this would never be the case
He built a wall and Mexico paid for it. They remember that clearly, so what he says 10 years later must be true. Anyone surprised maga people believing this is surprising. lol.
Trump complains that other countries have tariffs on the US. Yet no US manufacturer ever seems to have paid them. Odd that.
This is why debating or having any discussion with them is beyond worthless. If they have nothing. They will simply pull it out of their ass.
It’s amazing is how they also talk about the profit motive being king… but then toss that out the window when they think they are like old school overlords demanding tribute from their underlings…
Logical OR
Cost to US consumer is $0? What kind of economy would that be lmao
The economy of US propaganda where the US is so strong and either loved or feared and such an important market that everyone from all other countries will bow to them and ignore making a profit to appease the mighty Murica, because they are simply the greatest in the world.
Not to be confused with reality, where most of the world hates the US.
American Exceptionalism!
I saw a similar thing in Britain during the Leave Campaign - lots of arguments of the “when we’re out the EU will give us most of the rights members have, but without the obligations” kind, anchored only on British Exceptionalism, and enough people fell for it that Leave won.
Nationalist Delusions Of Grandeur is on hell of a drug.
The UK already had that when they were in, but that was apparently not a good enough deal for them.
Being an EU member comes with both Rights and Obligations and the objective was to have the former without the latter.
In fact the Referendum was done because the UK wanted to not to have to obbey the Freedom Of Movement rules for EU citizens entering its country (i.e. the Obligation) whilst keeping it for its citizens entering other EU countries (i.e. the Right) and was using the threat of holding a Leave Referendum to try and blackmail the rest of the EU, and the rest of the EU said “No!”
(This was actually just the later of a long series of instances of the British Government using that technique to get from the rest of the EU “exceptions” from the EU treaties, which went all the way back to Thatcher’s time and was how Britain had so many exceptions that nobody else had).
The British Exceptionalism part is that many Britons genuinelly expected they would get that (and also similarly for a lot of other Rights and Obligations, such as being able to import bleached chicken from the US at the same time as having open and uncontrolled access to the Free Market were such food products are forbidden) from the EU as part of the Leave Negotiations.
They could have just gotten some regular chicken and sold it with a little bottle of bleach attached. They really didn’t have to resort to such dramatic measures. But that’s UK politics I suppose.
Indeed.
Like Marmite, nobody would have stopped them from selling whatever disgusting seasoning they favour on the side. It’s the having it pre-added that’s the problem!
These people don’t understand that people in other countries are full human beings that don’t worship at the altar of american exceptionalism
Thing is, we’ve seen it at least a few times. Nintendo, for instance, did not increase the Switch 2 price. Many companies are afraid of adding a “tariff tax” label on goods.
I personally don’t understand it. What I’ve heard is that part of the issue is when companies are in many fields, the government could choose to retaliate on any of them. Reject their H1B visas when they set higher product prices, for instance.
Switch games are heavily overpriced. And switch 2 will likely have joycon issues again.
They’ll probably just price the games in the US than elsewhere
The switch 2 is also produced, in some capacity, in Vietnam. Apparently all the production from there is being redirected to the US to avoid tariffs, for now anyway.
My bro in law sells boba tea supplies from Taiwan to all your favorite boba tea stores.
He had a container that he was about to send but cancelled it because his margin is less than 10% and his stores he supports also runs a lean margin.
Last week he decided to close one of his warehouses in Portland, letting go of 20 people and a few hundred stores that depend on him.
When asked why he doesn’t just up the price, he said that if he did, the mass majority of the stores he supports won’t make it and the Oregon warehouse is barely breaking even.
Funny thing about him is that he sat out this election and now he regrets it.
Did you ever ask him what policies or other actions the democrats could have taken to get his vote?
he sat out this election
No sympathy. Dumbass got what he voted for, that he didn’t care if Trump won and did exactly what he said he was going to do. So why the sudden change of heart? Selfish fuck only cares when it impacts him personally.
Funny thing about him is that he sat out this election and now he regrets it.
ouch, this always hurts. I choose to still have empathy with him, even if he did make a extremely stupid decision.
It’s not like it would’ve made a difference in Oregon. There’s like only a couple 100000 swing voters that really matter when it comes to the presidency. (Local issues might still make it worth coming out for tho).
Funny thing about him is that he sat out this election and now he regrets it.
what, like Oregon could’ve gone 70% democratic instead of 55%?
He is registered in the outskirts of Clark County in NV. His vote counted there.
His vote WOULD HAVE counted there, HAD THEY BOTHERED.
Emphasis mine.
His vote, or more correctly, his choice not to vote, definitely still counted, just not in the way we would have preferred.
I have less than zero sympathy for your BIL.
tell him some random asshole on the Internet hopes he feels like a fucking idiot for the rest of his miserable life.
both ARE true.
I mean Sony and Humble Bundle do actually push those price increases onto others. They maintain their prices in the US, but raise them in Europe. A Humble Bundle subscription now includes IGN??? I’m sure there are other examples.
The logical thing to do is of course boycotting the companies that do, but since I’m not their customer there isn’t anything really I can do. Besides I am mostly just pirating stuff these days. Being able to afford food is somehow more important.Tbh I hope this does kill sales of Amazon trinkets. I want less shit in stores. I’m assuming they operate on margins such that it might be possible to kill them. But it also might just kill all well-made items. Time will well.
Even for handmade items - what about the raw materials? I’ve never bought anything from Shein, but the yarn for the sweater I’m working on wasn’t made in the US. My woodcarving tools are Norwegian I think, my paints and brush from China…
I guess if the economy crashes hard enough, maybe processing wool and spinning yarn will be viable jobs again?
Well-made items have razor thin profit margins too, the only items that survive this are the ones where your money was going into the owners pocket instead of wages, materials, or anything that improves the quality of the product; cheap products with high price-tags.
This person very clearly understands what is happening, hence the second sentence. It’s just phrased in a way to not immediately cause magas to engage in their rejecting of reality at the site of criticism.
I think more people need to approach it like this. Human’s minds are designed to think with their group and resistant to change. If you actually want to change minds, insults and accusations will immediately put them into fight mode and they will defend their ideology. But if you don’t attack their ideals and approach in a friendly kind of way, it will lead them to questioning their leader’s choices. It’s hard, I know. Their leader has made some shoot-themselves-in-the-foot choices and makes their conviction an easy target to attack. Insults and attacks may even be a way of letting off steam, but if you actually want change, it has to be a smart and kinder approach. It won’t be an immediate change, but it will be gradual and large over time.
We tried being reasonable for decades and that didn’t work becsuse they want to believe the propaganda they comsume. We won’t win them over by being kinder. That only works on reasonable people who care about facts.
They can go fuck themselves.
Part of the problem is that our models of knowledge were flawed. The basis was the information deficit model; the assumption was that people were missing data, and that if they learned more they would shift their understanding.
It turns out that this isn’t a good fit for human psychology, but approaches based on it still persist today.
Another problem is a fundamental misunderstanding of world views. People on the left tend to think that equality is a good thing and should be a goal. People on the right do not believe in equality. Not in the sense that they opposed it, they literally don’t believe it is possible. So any attempt to improve the lot of the worst-off is interpreted as an attempt to disrupt the hierarchy, ultimately ending up worse off for themselves. “You’re just jealous and want to be in charge.”
I think that there are communication strategies that can work, but maybe not. Humans have suffered under hierarchy for millennia, and maybe we are too flawed as a species.
It may seem unfair that the left would have to put so much effort into communicating with the right, who doesn’t give a fuck. That’s true, but the forces of hierarchy have had many more centuries to refine their propaganda. And what the left asks is for change and growth, while the right merely asks for a return to the way humans lived for most of civilization: a powerful few getting all the benefits and most of humanity struggling to survive.
It may seem unfair that the left would have to put so much effort into communicating with the right, who doesn’t give a fuck.
It’s about, nay, exactly the same reason why therapy is harder than causing trauma. The good news is that not causing trauma is not as hard as fixing it so it’ll get easier over the generations, the important bit is to find ways to effectively chip away at things.
Looking at the US, and thinking a bit out of the box: Start by de-normalising hitting kids, and don’t shy away from “if you don’t, then they’ll be able to get better jobs” type of arguments. You might think “but but am I not advocating for individualist turbo capitalism like that” – not really. Or at least not in the long term: To make anyone listen you have to simultaneously teach parents how to deal with the little shits in a non-hierarchical way, thus also teaching the kids that that’s possible, making them more prone to act like that once they’re adults. The “think of your kid’s career” part is just the hook, the rest is prefiguring Anarchy. Baby steps but hey you gotta start somewhere.
You’re not wrong, “Being reasonable” can be saying “you are wrong! And here’s why…” and as you said, that doesn’t work. And kindness doesn’t work either. I suggest we be less confrontational when trying to help them understand other views. It’s hard and nuisanced. It’s like saying “I’m not against you, but you’re choices and support are not working the way you think they are”, but in a clever way that isn’t so obvious.
Yeah, fuck these guys that are trampling over human right… but like, I also would like change to happen. Being reasonable and kind isn’t working. Neither is aggression.
And this attitude will only continue to cement their position against reason…congrats, you have fucked yourself
We tried being reasonable for decades and that didn’t work
Inviting the individual while painting them all with a broad brush is not helpful. Individuals can be reached.
You’re right. Addressing the group doesn’t work. So stop doing that.
Wow, your right such a different result of what has and is currently happening… /S fuck those scum they will never change.
Well, i mean, someone has to and i have no other applicants, at the moment.
Truly a sage.
It’s thyme.
Whereas the normal fox news viewers are a bunch of dill weeds.
Very thin ones though
I think that was pretty clear sarcasm. A lot of people hate read/comment on Fox News.
“Build the wall and Mexico will pay for it”
It’s both.
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