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      You didn’t see any of the SNC lavalin stuff did you?

      What about his black face costume?

      How about the law to make social media companies pay news outlets for having their articles shared on those platforms, then producing radio ads saying “meta and google are blocking your news!!”

      How about freezing the bank accounts of nonviolent protestors and anyone who supported them

      He shrugs all of that off, and goes by that narcissistic prayer. I’m not sure why anyone is defending this guy lol, is it just because he’s affiliated with the liberal party?

      He just recently had to pull back his over priced carbon tax because we’re all too broke. This plan literally only hurts the poor classes.

      god forbid we stop this left vs right nonsense and come together

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        He froze the bank accounts of the freedom convoy because the fundraiser was organized by a white supremicist and someone who wants western Canada to secede. Like literal racist traitors. They arrested members of diagalon during that time, who had staged weapons near coutts.

        But Trudeau wore a shitty costume one time so samesies.

        We can’t stop this “right vs left nonsense” because the right is trying to exclude from society anyone who isn’t a straight Christian, and are gathering momentum so quickly and deftly people like you don’t even see it because of how removed from reality the right wing information ecosystems are.

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          Tamara lich/Chris Barber are white supremacists? How’d you come to that conclusion? Or are you confusing 2 different groups?

          Yes you’re right about those politicians on the right trying to exclude people - the Christian nationalists in the US are horrible, so much for separation from state and church

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              Do you have any evidence of this outside of third hand anecdotal hear say? Or is it just the talking heads that push this?

              If you do, I’ll stand corrected

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                If you do, I’ll stand corrected

                Maybe you should sit down at this point, since people just dumping info on you that you won’t listen to.

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                  One person produced info (that person’s awesome), the rest was arbitrary speculation and conjecture.

                  I’ll stand thanks

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                https://globalnews.ca/news/8543281/covid-trucker-convoy-organizers-hate/

                In a video posted on Twitter in 2019, King suggests that unless Canadians “get up off your as—s and demand change,” they might want to change their names to “Ishmael” or “drop a bunch of change down the stairs” and “call yourself chong ching ching chang.”

                Also this. And this.

                They also just were shitty in general, by dancing on and then urinating on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. (I apologize to all of humanity for quoting this piece of garbage above, and really all of this in general).

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                  Yeah that looks like a racist ass statement from that Pat King guy for sure. I don’t support that shit. But thank you for sharing (even though I was asking about Chris Barber).

                  The rest of that (the 2 out of touch pictures, and the dude urinating on a grave) doesn’t capture the essence of what this meant for most people that supported the cause. It’s like the BLM protests, a few bad actors shouldn’t ruin the message for everyone.

                  Rachel Gillmore, who wrote that first article you posted, was laid off from global news after all that. Reasons are unclear…

                  But thank you again for providing sources, sincerely.

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                    It’s like the BLM protests, a few bad actors shouldn’t ruin the message for everyone.

                    A few bad actors who…? Don’t remember any Nazi flags, harassing homeless shelter employees, or attacking priests for wearing masks., nor do I recall any BLM protesters trying to force a man who was Asian to ‘dragon dance’, before beating him with objects when he refused.

                    a few bad actors shouldn’t ruin the message for everyone.

                    This started when you claimed the leaders of the convoy weren’t white supremacists, were shown proof they were, and now you’re at ‘a few bad actors…’ before missing the point of the saying you’re (changing the wording of slightly) using: A few bad apples spoil the bunch.

                    ruin the message for everyone.

                    Which was what exactly? That American rules blocking un-vaccinated truckers were Trudeau’s fault?

                    You guys got conned. Pure and simple. Either you’re a white supremacist trying to hide it, or you got conned by them and are trying to hide it.

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                  No I don’t need a picture, I’m just curious what words you and him exchanged in this first hand account

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            Pat King was the biggest leader of the convoy, he is for sure a white supremicist per his own recorded words.

            And why let Tamara collect money to basically fund a civil war?

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              In the Canadian govs eyes, he’s not the leader.

              Tamara and Chris are in court right now for charges about leading the convoy.

              You let protestors, protest. Especially when it’s not violent. The only injuries sustained in this protest were given to an old lady vs a police horse. You can’t just throw the money on the street - someone has to organize it.

              Why do you want the government to have so much control?

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                Pat king isn’t facing charges related to his leadership role in the convoy? Coulda sworn he had a court date the same day as Chris and Tamara’s a while back.

                https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/tamara-lich-christopher-barber-pat-king-crown-lays-new-charges-freedom-convoy-1.6396145

                Anyway. I’m not in favor of people protesting to end my right to exist in a country, or dividing a country so they can have a place for “real Canadians”. That should be illegal, because once protests get enough momentum they can enact laws to enshrine their ethnostate.

                I’m sorry you’re naive enough not to see this. Protesting is a tool for open societies, those who want to destroy such open societies should not have access to the tools to dismantle it, for then the society will cease to be open.

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                  I’m glad it’s not you that gets to gate keep protests then.

                  They were protesting to stop the ridiculous mandates the government imposed with little to no scientific reasoning. Stop pretending this is some racist issue.

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                    Ask some racist and non racist people if they believe vaccines work, you’ll get an interesting diagram.

                    What the two movements have in common is the absolute willfull ignorance of scientific evidence contrary to their views.

                    The “Medical Freedom” crowd is dangerous both for the stupidity of their “cause” and the unexpectedly effective camouflage they provide for other right wing racist bullshit.

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        We’ll never come together when morons like you believe the lies PP and rebel news is feeding you. By the looks of it, you’ve got a subscription to the Conservative Propaganda Newsletter and swallowed it whole.

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          I’ve never supported or mentioned PP, I’m not sure where you’re drawing that from.

          The dudes a career politician - that’s not far from being a salesperson your whole life. It’s debatable which is worse though, a career politician or a trust fund drama teacher lol

          Don’t resort to name calling though, makes you seem unintelligent

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            You don’t have to say his name when his jizz is dripping from your chin. You’re working from his playbook which is Harper’s hand book but if you’re not smart enough to understand who’s manipulated into your retarded pigeon hole, I am not surprised.

            Name calling isn’t what makes someone unintelligent. Supporting bigoted regressive policies, along with supporting the anti science movement is what exposes people as unintelligent.