it’s always the same comments rehashing the same old complaint when the real reason they designed it that way was to make you, the reader, mad
that’s right they hate you specifically
True, that’s why I think Steve Jobs deserved to die of ligma
Who the hell is Steve Jobs?
My balls
Wait
Ha gottem
Tim Apple’s father
Some kind of mind goblin.
I know! That was the year I unfriended Jony Ive and he hasn’t been invited to my birthday since!
Diss me via computer peripheral? I say thee: nay!
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This must be a joke. That can’t actually be how they designed it right?
They really didn’t want you using it as a wired mouse. Because aesthetics.
Aesthetically this looks way dumber than a wired mouse.
So that when other people see that you’re using the mouse wirelessly, because apple cares about how others perceive your product that you bought, not you.
I mean, Apple users care more about how they’re perceived using an Apple product rather than the cost-to-quality ratio of the product itself. Why wouldn’t Apple cater to that? It’s like printing money, and Apple users are so fucking cult-ish they fixate on things like green text messages.
The best examples of that, is how apple made headphones that yellow, but only the part thats in your ear, so you see it, but nobody else does, and you get temped to buy new ones.
It’s 100% true
Yeah it’s real. My parents have one.
The gen 1 mouse had removable batteries connected to a door on the bottom.
The gen 2 mouse went with a rechargable battery, but they didn’t want to retool the factories making the top shell, so they couldn’t put the charging port anywhere other than the bottom part they were redesigning.
Just charge the mouse overnight when you’re not using it. Also the charge cable disables the sensor so you can’t fix this “design feature” by modifying the mouse. Why not buy the desktop trackpad if you really need an input device when your mouse is charging?
Why should I buy two devices to do the same job, where a single device from any other sane manufacturer would function 100% of the time? Especially after paying a premium for the branded device?
Pay more to get problems others don’t have, then pay even more on top to solve those problems…
You don’t become a trillion dollar company by selling people things they need. The strategy is to induce demand.
Apple designs products so that when broken it requires a repair that costs 50-75% the cost of the device if repaired by Apple. If you’re paying that much to fix it you might as well just buy a new one.
The apple vision pro is glued together, the outer shell and internal lenses have highly scratchable plastic on the outside. Want to fix it, over a thousand. They can’t just remove some screws replace the broken part. This is a deliberate design decision.
It’s not about making good products, it’s about money. If you decide buy a trackpad for when your mouse is charging, apple make bank.
I would love for an evironmental protection agency to hold corporations accountable for designed obsolescence.
do you even regulatory capture, bro?
Or buy literally any other mouse that you can use while charging…
Yup, I have a Logitech MX Master 3 at work and it works just fine while charging. Oh, and it has two real scroll wheels, a thumb button (great for switching workspaces), and is really comfortable to use. A magic mouse has none of those things.
At home I have a Logitech Triathlon at home, which I actually like better. There’s no horizontal scroll wheel, but the vertical scroll can tick side to side to get the same effect. It’s smaller, uses AA batteries, is more convenient to switch devices (I have it connected to my Steam Deck and another laptop), and the thumb button is easier to press.
I really don’t like the magic mouse. To be honest, I also don’t like my MacBook Pro, but I need it for work, so whatever. I guess I’m just not the target market.
But my aesthetic!
Usability too. The hybrid touch/mouse combo hasn’t been implemented better elsewhere (as far as I’m aware) and I find touchpad functionality like that very good. I have to work on a windows laptop for work and I game on a windows machine, but my personal laptop was an $800 Mac and the touchpad and window management is leagues above my $1400 work Windows
Charge the mouse over night 😂
The magic mouse is just shit with crappy ergonomics and user-hostile design like most of their hardware. It’s just pretty to look at.
I don’t even think it’s pretty to look at, it’s honestly quite boring. Then again, I don’t like how any of Apple’s hardware looks, so I guess I’m not the target market.
You charge it like that for 15 minutes, and then you get a month of battery life. Odd design choice tho
Or get a normal mouse you can use while charging for 15 mins and then have a month of battery. Or charge for 2hrs while using and have six months of battery.
Or buy two of these mice, so you always have a charged one waiting. (This comment was sponsored by Apple)
Had me in the first half
Or get a wired mouse and it works forever
Or get a wireless mouse that charges through the mousepad and it works forever while not having wires connect to your mouse.
Or charge the mouse pad with a tesla coil to charge your wireless mouse so your mouse pad stays charged forever.
This is twenty twenty, everything is air gapped or you’re not relevant. Don’t look in my room.
At my desk, I agree. From my sofa, not so much
Yeah same, $4 from kmart
A $4 mouse sucks tho.
Dragging the mouse cord across the desk is annoying though, and mouse bungees don’t fix the problem entirely
What kind of heavy cable does your mouse use that you even notice it is attached?
If you use low mouse sensitivity it’s very annoying
Here’s the thing about that though. The one thing the Magic Mouse does really well, is smooth scrolling. Apple makes it so no other mouse can do that since they control the software. So despite all the other issues it has, if you want their buttery smooth scrolling you have to use the Magic Mouse. And Apple shills will refuse to go without it, thus Apple makes bank off their otherwise shitty mouse.
The only solution to this is a sea change where people stop buying apple products purely out of brand loyalty, which will probably never happen because they do make enough genuinely good products to keep people from losing faith, like the M1/2/3 laptops.
Actually, there is software for OSX to do that, works quite well.
People would leave them plugged in damaging the port.
It’s a design to prevent stupid people damaging their products than having to deal with warranty claims that they can’t just tell you “you’re a fucking moron, unplug it to use it and it won’t get damaged”.
Or you could have a port that’s not garbage like every wired mouse with a removable cable…
Any port would be damaged by constantly moving something while connected…… it’s why you hardwire them if you don’t want them being damaged.
And yet, the wired mouse I’ve been using for 4+ years with a removable micro usb cable; is perfectly fine. No damage to the port which still holds the cable perfectly.
(I’d post the mouse model but it’s not in font of me rn to check)
Someone doesn’t know what failure rates are….
If you haven’t experienced it, no one else possibly could….
Fucking lol.
Here we go:
ROG P501 Gladius Mouse.
Micro usb, recessed ~3/8" into the device with keyways and a sliding lock moulded into the cable+socket to prevent the cable being accidentally removed or any force being applied to the actual usb within
It also leaves enough space to use most micro usb cables if you manage to lose/break the two high-quality sleeved cables it comes with.(7 of the 8 I have on hand fit).
Unless you’re using it as a mace, you’ll be pretty hard pressed to wear this out with regular use. You’ll wear out the buttons/switches first.
Apple can do far better than what they offer. They just don’t bother.
Do you work for the apple social media team or something?
Not true at all, lots of wireless mice with durable optional cables.
I have a Logitech MX Master with the charging port in the front. It looks like this. I can plug it in and use it just like a wired mouse while it charges. It’s great.
Stop making excuses for Apple. They’re a megacorp, they don’t care about you. They overcharge users for gimmicks and compatibility lock-in every chance they get.
If that were the case, every other computer peripheral manufacturer would use a similar design or face similar warranty claim issues. Which they don’t. So nah, that ain’t it, chief.
Other manufacturers don’t care as much about quality so they just deal with the claims.
It’s like comparing a bently to a Honda, no one cares if a Honda gets a warranty claim, but to Bentley, it’s huge.
They don’t, though. I don’t think I’ve ever had a USB port wear out from use on any peripheral with a removable cable, so if Apple is facing those kinds of issues, it’s not because of stupid users, it’s because Apple cheaped out on the build quality of the USB port.
As for Bentley versus Honda reliability, Honda’s warranty claim rate is apparently about 2%. I can’t find actual warranty claim statistics for Bentley specifically, only for VW as a whole, but according to this, 93% of Bentley owners have to take their car in for unscheduled repairs every year. Which is pretty insane. So yeah. Luxury brands are expensive because their primary purpose is to show off wealth, not because they’re any better than mass-produced consumer stuff. Often quite the opposite. Who knew.
Wow, you’re super early to the party.
They must have thought that people would buy two to have one while the other charged
Why is this in /funny??
Because it’s hilariously bad design.
Lemmy only knows how to be upset, so even “jokes” need to be upsetting
Looks funny.
Still better than the Mighty Mouse.
And while we’re at it, the razer deathadder v2 x hyperspeed is hot garbage and disconnects so often in 2.4g mode, I just went back to a wired mouse.
I made the mistake of buying a Razer Kiyo Pro webcam. Never again will I buy anything from Razer. Every time it’s connected, it puts an installer on my hard drive unprompted and then tries to install its crapware. I’ve never seen a piece of hardware that puts an exe on your hard drive without user consent.
That’s why I like my G Pro. I usually run it wired but if I want to travel I can just unplug it and stick the receiver in my laptop.
All Razer products are garbage. They’re a marketing company that makes computer hardware, just like Apple.
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This has ruined my week - the mere thought that people actually brought this drives me insane.
I’ve been riding one pretty hard for my job for half a decade. It’s pretty nice actually, I like the 2-axis touch scrolling. I wish it had a middle click, it’s way too expensive, and last time I tried to get it working with Linux it was a fucking nightmare.
BetterTouchToolUI and set a middle click gesture. I consider that software mandatory for Max OS, and it’s ridiculous that the features aren’t built into the OS.
You have a very strange sense of humor.
So does apple
Yeah well that’s not the worst honestly… I have the exact model and for reasons I cannot explain the ergonomics are incomparable with me. And I’m a mac user for my music production activities so it’s not like I’m a hater - I really don’t care. But I’ll stick to only using the touchpad on my mac book pro.
Grip style. People grip their mice in different ways and the Magic Mouse really doesn’t work for palm grippers. For fingertip grippers it’s one of the most comfortable mice ever made; for everyone else it’s hot garbage.
I’m a palm gripper and was using a Mac at work when this came out. I begged them to order me a real mouse within a month
The only thing I liked about it were the gestures but Ctrl+scroll zooming works fine
My carpal tunnel remembers as well
I’ll stick to only using the touchpad
That’s a one-way ticket to carpal tunnel my friend. Just get a nice, non-apple mouse. That’s what I did and I couldn’t be happier. Video editor, so we largely work the same way.
Plus with even a cheap mouse these days you can customize different buttons - great for your workflow.
Trust me when I say this, wrist pain does not seem like a big deal until it starts happening. Then it affects literally everything you do. It took me months to get mine under control, it was awful. And now I have to constantly be taking preventative measures in a way I didn’t have to even just a few years ago. Admittedly this was largely due to using my phone too much, but I also relied too much on cheap mice and trackpads.
I’m assuming it can hold a charge long enough that you can just charge it while you’re sleeping, and this won’t interrupt your work. On the other hand, if they had placed the socket in the front, you could work while you charge.
You laugh now, but let me see you find a better spot for a cable!
…where do all the wired mice put it?
I assume it was sarcasm
I think it’s probably totally usable once it finishes charging and you unplug the cord.
Meh. Would make a lot more sense to have the cord plugged in a way that a user can use it while charging
It’s Apple so they probably have some kind of secret proprietary bullshit on it where it doesn’t work right if you use it while it’s charging.
But you are forced to wait until it is done charging.
A feature no other mouse has.
Well, that’s Apple for you
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I didn’t realize that that comment would be so divisive lol
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IDK, I’ve used one and it really sucks. It’s awkward to hold and the finger gestures are awkward to perform.
Just get a regular mouse or a big trackpad. I have an MX Master 3 at work and Triathlon M720 at home (I prefer the M720). I’m not a fan of Apple products generally, but the Logitech mice make it way more pleasant imo.
I pretty much only use Logitech mice. The few times I’ve used Apple stuff it felt like I was going to break it
I have a Microsoft Intellimouse Pro on my desktop, but other than that, Logitech seems to be pretty reliable. I did have bad luck with the g305 Lightning, so went for the Razer DeathAdder Mini for my wife.
My work mice have been solid though.
Have been using that mouse for almost a decade and this literally never has been an issue.
If you really somehow manage to drain the battery to zero you can just plug it in for 5 minutes and it will work for the rest of the day. Fully charged it lasts for months.
Complaining about the design it is a purley manufactured issue by people that never used one.
So because of a dumb design decision that they could have easily avoided if they designed a good product, you lose 5 minutes of your time waiting on your peripheral to charge.
You could just have bought a decent mouse and never had that issue, with no drawbacks in any other way, shape or form.
Ironically, the only time in my adult life when not being able to use the mouse on my computer for 5 minutes would’ve been a major disruption to me was when I had a Mac.
Good thing there is plenty of other mice available for people that can’t handle a simple charging routine.
You mean literally every single other wireless mouse that you can buy.
I’ve also used this mouse for many years, and it is infuriating when it dies and I have to stop what I’m doing and just… wait.
No other mouse requires that I adhere to a “charging routine.” With other mice, I can just leave my desk. I don’t have to make sure I plug my mouse in before I leave work, otherwise risking getting out of the habit and then having my work interrupted by a hilarious (I know it’s hilarious because my coworkers laugh at me when it happens) design flaw.
I fixed the problem though. I had a wired mouse tucked away that I could use for a day rather than do the 2 minute charging shuffle when my magic mouse died.
Even if we put the charging issue aside for a minute (it’s still stupid) the mouse flipped upside down (and the mere fact that you are constantly reminded of it) looks objectively much worse than if there were a charging port visible on the upper side.
