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Summary
Democratic Senator Jack Reed accused Trump of “surrendering to the Russians” as his administration pushes for U.S.-Russia talks over Ukraine.
Special envoy Steve Witkoff suggested Ukraine’s NATO ambitions provoked the war and declined to blame Russia.
Zelenskyy, under pressure, said he would step down for peace if Ukraine gained NATO membership.
The Trump administration denies favoring Russia and claims its strategy brings peace closer without criticizing Putin’s invasion.
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“under pressure”, where did that come from? Not from the article.
Who’s Trump? Don’t the mean Krasnov?
What’s the context here?
“A former KGB officer alleges that Donald Trump was recruited as a Soviet spy in 1987, nicknamed ‘Krasnov’.”
He’s not “surrendering” to them - he’s actively working for their benefit, as it’s been clear all along he intended to do.
Who hate NATO? Russia. Who’s trump trying to distance America from NATO
Putin must have dirt on Trump. I doubt Trump cares about anyone but himself.
With all the blatant proven scandals, straight up convicted felonies, and international crimes, this guy still squats in the Whitehouse. Beyond all sanity, somehow this happened. I seriously wonder what kind of dirt would actually be able to control him at this point.
It could come out tomorrow that he hired Wagner Group personally to exterminate an entire island of indigenous people to put a golf course on it. There could be documents with his signature and recorded audio of the phone call, and that news would just blend in with the rest of his noise.
I dunno, I think he just sees other fascists as “fellow businessmen” and has an insatiable lust after his own ego. Like it’s overly simplistic maybe but “He’s just evil.” Seems to be an ample explanation for everything about him…
I’m certain that he owes Russia a lot of money, but now that he’s captured the US government you’d think he wouldn’t care about that any more. As you say, he obviously admires other dictators, but it’s still strange how unwaveringly positive he’s always been toward Putin - it’s not typical of him to never stab an associate in the back.
That’s a REALLY good point. It is really strange, since we’ve come to expect him to constantly renege on “the very biggliest best deals” and then say “So what? Winning lol.”
I can’t recall any time he’s ever put pressure on or even vaguely threatened Pooty either, and half the air out of his face is vague threats at people. Lol
It used to be easily explained by him owing so much to him, but Trump’s a full-on dictator now. Maybe kissing Putin’s ass is and old habit that’s hard to break? I can’t see Trump planning for when he’s no longer president and wanting to keep Putin in his good graces for that. Maybe he’s concerned abut his family’s safety? Not because he actually cares about them in and of themselves, but because they’re his legacy, the only way a narcissist like him could care about them.
Evil is a superstition word. Psychology more than explains his behavior. He’s a narcissist and probably has other mental health issues.
However, he has enough money that he is never forced to address these issues and surrounds himself with people who benefit from manipulating him by using these traits.
He’ll probably never even realize how dysfunctional he would be as a regular person that has to interact with society to survive.
Sure, even with its gaps in contemporary understanding, psychology still does explain his behavior.
What I meant by evil wasn’t to use it as a “superstition word” so much as a philosophical one. I say “he’s evil”, because he’s well aware of the harm, misery, and grief he causes countless people, and not only doesn’t care, he actively accelerates that behavior whenever possible.
This is a person who enjoys being a villain, a malady, a negative force on this earth that actively avoids not ruining someone’s day if he can help it. Not even to gain some kind of advantage or because he believes it’s “right” in some twisted way. He just literally enjoys being a dick, and will tirelessly seek out the most ruthless way to do so.
Mustache-twirling cartoon bad guys seem rational by comparison. Like, man, after seeing Musk and Trump, I’d bet He-Man and Skeletor could just talk it out. LOL
Sure, there’s plenty of rational explanations of thought patterns and pre-existing beliefs behind it, but on a fundamental level, morally, ethically, philosophically, “evil” is a very apt shortcut description for the man and his cohorts.
But of course, I’m not trying to dive into semantics or write some kind of provable thesis here. Just contributing to conversation. :p
Was practically a campaign promise to do Papa Putin’s bidding
Zelenskyy, under pressure, said he would step down for peace if Ukraine gained NATO membership.
Nice counter to the ‘Zelenskyy is a dictator’ narrative.
this is worse than surrender. this is betrayal
***treason
So treasonous, I could be convinced he got rid of his neck on purpose, so the hangman’s noose wouldn’t have anywhere to hold on to.
Trump surrendered to the Russians in 1987. He’s just taking Ukraine and the rest of the USA with him this time.
This part I’m out of the loop on. What happened in 1987?
I think it’s a reference to this - https://bylinetimes.com/2025/02/21/donald-trump-was-recruited-by-the-kgb-under-codename-krasnov-claims-former-soviet-spy-chief/
This is just a show to me of how far disconnected I am from reality. I started reading the article, and my brain immediately went “Oh, ok. It’s a bunch of conspiracy theory nonsense. It doesn’t actually make sense, and therefore doesn’t pass the sniff test.”
It was at that moment, I realized that modern day life itself doesn’t pass the sniff test. There’s been so much bullshit this past 10 years that triggers my bullshit sense. Very regularly I I think to myself that there’s no way Donald Trump would be elected president…but yet he’s been elected president. Twice.
I’m at the point where I don’t know WHAT to believe now. Is this story bullshit? Maybe. Maybe not. Seems about as legit as anything else in this timeline. We’ve already gone through global pandemics, murder hornets, toilet paper shortages, Los Angeles best being described as “on fire”, and during the presidential debate, they asked trump if he has a concentrated well thought out plan. His response? “I have concepts of a plan”. THAT GUY then proceeded to win the election.
I’m at a point where I don’t want to be cynical, but it just doesn’t add up for me. HOW did an entire country see THAT display, the same debate he accused people in Ohio of eating cats and dogs, and think “I think I’m gonna vote for that guy”. AND THEN HE WINS THE POPULAR VOTE???
I don’t want to say it, because I have no proof, where there’s smoke there’s usually fire, but I’m not seeing the usual smoke. Yet I find myself unable to shake this instinctual feeling that the entire process was rigged from the start. I don’t want to be that guy, but that’s how it feels to me. Then you read a story like this, and it kind of lines up with his actions. Who’s to say he WASN’T recruited by Russia 35 years ago? I have no way to argue against that in my own brain when I don’t feel like I have a good grasp on what reality even IS anymore. And that all feels very by design. I don’t like anything going on around me, and if we had a different planet to live on, I’d leave.
I’m at the point where I don’t know WHAT to believe now. Is this story bullshit? Maybe. Maybe not. Seems about as legit as anything else in this timeline. We’ve already gone through global pandemics, murder hornets, toilet paper shortages, Los Angeles best being described as “on fire”, and during the presidential debate, they asked trump if he has a concentrated well thought out plan. His response? “I have concepts of a plan”. THAT GUY then proceeded to win the election.
This was exactly the goal the entire time. The flood of conspiracy nonsense broke the public’s trust in almost every single reliable institution or source of news. Once that’s done people will believe whatever they agree with and if you flood them with enough narrative supporting your cause they’ll choose to believe you. Welcome to the Russian, Fox News and Republican propaganda strategy, this is how they converted half of voting age Americans into voters for a bankrupt “businessman” who’ll tear apart our entire govt, society and public for a profit.
It couldn’t be any clearer that the blyats own him.
To surrender to something don’t you have to oppose it at some point?
You don’t surrender to the people giving you your marching orders, you just hop when they tell you to hop
“Duuuuuuuh!!!” says literally everybody else.
Seriously, this is NOT news. This has been going on for like 8 years now.
This is news because it needs to be broadcast loud and clear to everyone. To fight fascism you need to document and report on everything they do. It needs to be spread far and wide so there’s no misunderstanding of what’s going on.
Was America at war with Russia?
This is just the ‘Russian hoax’ 2.0.
