Already switched to Zen on PC and Fennec on Android.
Switching from Android to iPhone soon, what is the best browser for the iPhone? 🤔
Very interested in responses, following.
Nope.
Not that I don’t think it’s a dumb move from Mozilla, but the options right now are:
- Stay with Firefox
- Move to a Firefox-based browser
Especially since I use Mozilla’s services I’m sorta in their ecosystem right now. Maybe once I’ve moved passwords off I can consider moving, but even then on Android the only browser that supports uBlock is Firefox afaik, which makes it my YouTube client of choice.
100% recommend moving off firefox’s password manager, as it’s generally much more insecure than something like Bitwarden
I gotta set up something on my home server fr
I’m mainly trying to work out how to get off windows.
Nice. I’ve been there, and changing just a bit at a time has added up to my computing now being in a state I’m much happier with.
Yes.
Short term – I’ll probably be moving to LibreWolf, most likely. I’m planning to spend a good chunk of time this weekend reviewing what exactly their fork does. I’ve read their self-description already – and like it – but I want to look through the code and try to build it myself before I start depending on it.
Long term – I’ll be keeping my eye on Servo and Ladybird.
Librewolf is not exactly a fork. It is a autoconfig file for firefox (which is a firefox feature). https://codeberg.org/librewolf/settings/raw/branch/master/librewolf.cfg It’s not a solution.
this actually makes me more likely to use it.
Thanks for the pointer. As I said, I need to spend a good chunk of time reviewing exactly what they’ve done before I feel confident enough to depend on it. A simple reconfiguration of stock Firefox that I am confident does not phone home is likely good enough for me in the short term.
If you have a better solution though, please let us know what it is.
does not phone home
Only blocking will achieve this fully.
What I use is Firefox with config (similar to librewolf) + blocking using privoxy. I’ve been using this for a long time. However I’m no longer confident this is sufficient.
Not yet, they’re still the best option that doesn’t use Chromium (I don’t count Safari), but Servo is looking pretty promising
I’ve been using Firefox since it was Netscape, and I’m ‘concerned’ but not going anywhere yet.
I still don’t see Mozilla as a bad actor, especially in comparison with the villany that is google and microsoft. It’s still a great alternative for privacy newbies and average users, although I personally made the switch to librewolf (desktop) and iceraven (mobile) a while ago. Both being forks of firefox, development for actual firefox is essential for either of these to survive, so Mozilla still has my support albeit indirectly
Librewolf / IronFox for me, Mozilla can fuck right off with their cloud services, added value and hunger for telemetry. Their 2% userbase is about to shrink even further.
Oh wow, I did that exact switch yesterday upon seeing the changes.
I’ve been inching towards Gnome Web (WebKit) for a while now. Every time I try using it I last a little longer than last time before I encounter some deal breaking issue and return to Firefox.
In the short term I’m considering sticking to Firefox for work, and using Gnome Web for all other kinds of distractions. I’m writing this in Gnome Web right now, and it’s working great. :)
On mobile I’ll probably stick to Firefox for a while. So they will still have all my data, and if I have to choose between Mozilla and Google it will still be Mozilla. But my god I wish they would stop acting like idiots.
Librewolf. Mozilla will just keep enshittifying their browser. My biggest hope is that chrome is split off from Google and Mozilla loses their funding from google (500M/year). It’s way more than they need and they refuse to actually compete with Chrome/Chromium. Instead, they are content being the excuse for Google not to be sued for being a monopoly.
Hopefully the charade will end before Trump leaves office. Either because the US courts force google to split or because the EU finally grows a pair and declares Google and their tech to be a liability. My bet is that a new browser like LadyBird will give Firefox a reason to actually improve, but it’ll be too late.
Librewolf is basically a autoconfig file for firefox (firefox feature). https://codeberg.org/librewolf/settings/raw/branch/master/librewolf.cfg You can use this file in normal firefox.
After a quick look at librewolf I may absolutely join you
I’m going to stick to Firefox for the time being at least for the clients where I managed to get Firefox ESR accepted. For everything else, it might be the time to switch to Librewolf. Among other advantages, they have enabled jxl support.
I honestly have no clue, personally.
I know i have to jump ship, but my choices are either chromium, or a fork of firefox, that may be slow to catch up with security / may not last.
I’ve got my eyes on librewolf, floorp and zen.
I’m especially watching https://ladybird.org/. A completely independent browser. But the dev has gotten himself in hot water iirc, but anything to get away from google and mozilla, i guess. Also, it’s not complete.
We’ll see what the future has in stock for us.
Andres Kling? I haven’t seen anything about him recently to suggest he’s done anything suspect.
On PC, I will look into switching to a fork. Not sure what to do on my phone
I’m staying on this side, but probably switching to a fork like Librewolf
I’ve previously used Floorp which is feature rich but not polished, and same goes for Zen
Librewolf is not exactly a fork. It is a autoconfig file (firefox feature). https://codeberg.org/librewolf/settings/raw/branch/master/librewolf.cfg
It is an autoconfig file
But there is a fork of firefox with that implemented by default called “Librewolf”, I don’t know if thats made by the same people or not
What I meant to say is: what librewolf does is using this firefox feature called autoconfig. Librewolf is not exactly a fork. It’s mostly autoconfig file + rebranding.
I’ve heard that librewolf struggles to keep up to date with important security updates iirc? That is pretty much the only thing holding me from using it permanently.
Seeing a lot of people recommend the same three forks, though. I’ll have to try them out and see what i like best :D
If they’re willing to lose their market share just to chase the AI dragon, I’m willing to be complicit. I know that Brave is pretty good on PC (aware of their crypto bollockery), and I’m taking Librewolf for a spin. As for mobile, I’m happy with Vanadium.
The real shame is Thunderbird getting caught in it. I’ll have to look for a replacement both on PC and Android.
I use fair mail on Android and I really like it. Evolution comes pre installed on Debian, it got the job done for me too. The mobile client is more important to me personally.
