The Supreme Court on Friday ruled that President Donald Trump violated federal law when he unilaterally imposed sweeping tariffs across the globe, a striking loss for the White House on an issue that has been central to the president’s foreign policy and economic agenda.

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    So let me get this straight, the companies that raised their prices based on Trump’s tariffs get to apply for a refund with no requirement to lower prices and pass that refund on to the consumers who actually had to pony up the money at the ‘cash register’ every day. Once again, corporations get an undeserved bailout while the American consumer gets shafted. Typical.

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      Once again, corporations get an undeserved bailout while the American consumer gets shafted. Typical.

      I hate that we call ourselves consumers and not citizens

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      I wonder if post-refund if a class-action lawsuit gets opened. While lawyers would take a huge cut, at least some would make it to the population.

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      …and those refunds will flow through Howard Lutnick (and son’s) business.

      Just more crime. When will Americans stop bending over and taking it from these criminals?

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        It was supposed to be once the bread and circuses became unaffordable, but we’re all so overworked that we don’t have the energy to punch up.

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      Even better than that is all the shit that he implemented claiming that the tarrifs would pay for them aren’t going anywhere

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    At his White House news conference, Trump announced alternative options, including an immediate 10% global tariff.

    Lol, the US is a clown show.

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    “They have made their ruling, now let us see them enforce it.”

    Now several companies will sue my government for damages.

    yaaaaay

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      Why? Lutnick’s kid had a financial benefit in the tariffs getting overturned. The Epstein class helps each other

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      It’s not the 6-3 ruling I expected at all. Was fully thinking would be 6-3 that it was okay for him to do it not saying he can’t

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    As if that’ll stop the orange nonce.

    While him and his enablers suffer no consequences then he is defacto above the law

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      There are already lawsuits filed for refunds of tariff payments. Of course the money will go to the companies that made the payments. All of us who actually paid them by paying more for basically every consumer good are out of luck.

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      To some corporations I’m sure. Not to the consumers that actually paid the cost of them. A lot of corporations bought surplus before tariffs went into effect. Then they raised prices as if the Tariffs were affecting them instantly. Now some will surely get pay backs and double dip in the profits.

      This has been and always will be a tax on the consumer and the working class. It is nothing but capital consolidation methods and class warfare. Those loyal to Trump get exclusions and profit from the Tariffs. Those that do not are hurt (all small business and some larger corps that don’t play ball).

      It is a means of solidifying loyalty to the fascist state.

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      So…

      … yeah…

      According to the Fed, as of early-mid Jan 2026, you’re looking at $287 billion dollars of total Trump tariff revenue.

      https://www.richmondfed.org/research/national_economy/macro_minute/2026/how_much_revenue_raised_by_tariffs_so_far

      Also, over the last year, into this one, the Treasury has been massively expanding its General Account, which is functionally the checking account of the Federal Government.

      Its around $900 billion right now.

      Normally its more like several hundred billion, 200 b, 300 b.

      Why is it so large right now?

      Well, because the Treasury (Bessent) has decided to just massively shift as much of the Gov’s debt refinancing as possible, over to… short term debt issuance, like, 1 Year T bills and even shorter duration notes.

      Like uh, just a few days ago, the Gov issued (refinanced) around $212 billion of debt.

      So yeah, we had a one day debt rollover that… rivals the entire size of the Treasury General Account basically pre-covid.

      Every 5 days (business week), the US Gov is refinancing roughly $600 billion of debt.

      … what I am trying to say is that even if the treasury were to somehow pay back around $300 billion of illegal tariff revenue…

      Well, that would take a while.

      Because the Treasury doesn’t have the margin to do that.

      … It could very well be the case that Fed would have to print money, to buy the T Bills, so the money in the TGA… could repay the … tariffs.

      That latest $212 billion rollover ?

      The Fed had to print, poof into existence, $8 billion of it. And thats without the Fed Gov trying to add another $300 billion into… some… kind of… payment plan?

      I don’t know man, I’m an econometrician by training, but… to my knowledge nothing comparable to this has ever happened before.

      This is not looking so good.

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      Pay who back? All the citizens this administration fleeced?

      If corporations are paid back they aren’t going to give refunds to all of their costumers they directly forwarded these costs to.

      We all got fucked. Trump fucked us, as well as his own supporters.

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      There’s always the chance Costco gives its customers something. They have records of everything purchased by members. Every other company, I wouldn’t hold my breath. These tariffs have cost companies a lot in paperwork as well.

      Maybe commercial clients who have bought something really substantial will get something refunded.

      That’s all if Trump’s government complies, which he’s previously said it wouldn’t. He’ll make another excuse or appeal it until he’s gone, making it someone else’s problem.

  • D_C@sh.itjust.works
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    Another illegal {insert thing here}?

    Oh, wow, is it time to arrest and charge?
    Or, will you do nothing just like the 7456 times the fat cunt broke your laws in the last year and you did fuck all?

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      An illegal executive order isn’t a crime, it just doesn’t count.

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      This seems like a job for drumroll+horns CHUCK SHUMER & HAKEEM JEFFRIES

      Dynamic duo of incompetence extraordinaire!

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        This criticism makes no sense. Articles of impeachment require a simple majority in the house and then a 2/3rds majority in the Sentate.

        The dems don’t have the votes. Jeffries likely couldn’t even get it to the house floor for a vote. Johnson wouldn’t allow it.

        Like we can critize them for giving the Republicans their budget or about 1,000 other issues within their power, but this isn’t something they can deliver. Unless a lot of Republicans suddenly grow a conscience

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        “HAKEEM! get the paper! I’ll get the pen and meet me in the cafeteria for another ‘strongly worded letter’ writing session!”

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          At this point Chucks glasses were so far down his nose Hakeem knew it was about time the Baileys were about to show up in person.

          Would they be as concerned as Chumer? Find out this and more in the next thrilling episode.

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      I’m not sure something like this would ever have resulted in an arrest? Even in other countries?

      An impeachment and conviction and removal from office though should be in the cards, but obviously won’t be.

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    Important to note that the ruling just says Trump exceeded his authority in setting the tariffs, not that the tariffs themselves were illegal/unconstitutional. That means that Congress can authorize Trump to continue doing this. The question is whether Mike Johnson and John Thune have the numbers to pass that law. They already both quashed efforts to curb Trump’s authority before.

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      I’m not too worried about additional tariffs passing through congress, though. That would have been the safer approach to try from the beginning if Trump’s people thought they could make it work. They opted for this workaround loophole nonsense specifically to go around congress because they had already ruled out the possibility of congressional approval.

      I just don’t think Trump could ever manage to get enough support from congress. Certainly not with how unpopular the tariffs currently are, and certainly not right before the midterms.

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        He absolutely does not have the numbers to get this through congress. Across the aisle repubs and dems are mostly pro-business, pro-trade, and these tariffs don’t make an ounce of sense to any of them. Some GOP goons would vote for it just to make Trump happy, but way too many would rather protect their wealthy donors than protect the President. There’s not a lot of political future in making the Waltons unhappy.

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          Across the aisle repubs and dems are mostly pro-business, pro-trade

          Well, plenty of the MAGA republicans are pro-tectionist more than they are pro-trade. If he’d tried to pass new tariffs on day 1 of his administration there’s a chance that they might have had enough votes to do it. But, that was the slow way that required negotiating and compromise.

          Now that people have seen just how awful the tariffs are, I think a lot of the MAGA republicans wouldn’t pass the legislation. They could have claimed ignorance before the tariffs passed, but now it’s hard for them to argue with a straight face that they’ll be good for America.

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        But wouldn’t it be delightful if he actually tried, because that’s the only thing left to do and he can’t possibly give up on the tariffs?

        That’s his one signature economic policy. Without tariffs, he’s got nothing. Even though they are unpopular, he still claims they just need more time, you’ll see how marvelous life is going to be when he hands the tariff checks to every household in America.

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      Any other ruling wouldn’t have made sense. The issue was not about if tariffs are legal, but rather if the President has the authority to unilaterally set them.

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      That’s fine, sort of. Maybe we’re all just traumatized by violating constitution, checks and balances, the rule of law, but I’d welcome the improvement if they were evil legally

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    So the Supreme Court finally found out what we all already knew?

    But a few of them clearly still haven’t gotten the memo?

    I mean I’m trying to be happy about this news, but it’s kind of just more proof how pathetic and corrupt our SC is.

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    Too little too late supreme court. There’s no one left to enforce the decision.

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      It’s not really a matter of timing. If this ruling had come out a year ago, it’s not like there were enforcers ready to go. As soon as Trump took over he made sure that nothing in the executive branch was going to stand in his way. And his toadies in the legislative branch have been rolling over for him since the inauguration.

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        Certainly. But the DOJ and every other agency has been completely hollowed of anyone that could have even tried.

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    It doesn’t matter. Remember all those times when Trump & Co set a tariff percentage, then lowered it a few weeks later? I wonder why? Maybe somebody made a “donation” to his bitcoin account. He got what he wanted.

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    The Supreme Court sided with business over the US government. No surprise there. According to the law this whole action was illegal. I am surprised it was not unanimous and had three dissenters.

    Where in the fuck do companies get off thinking the tariffs, paid by consumer, is going to be refunded to them!?