• j4k3@lemmy.world
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          I don’t know if I believe Bush was that good at acting. There are high Machiavellian types, Platonic sophism and misinformation, but I don’t think any are quite sure who are the leaders and who are the convenient idiots, but opportunism abounds. They fail to adopt game theory after the most prosperous methodology has been established and proven.

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            9 days ago

            How? A correct answer saves the world.

            Edit: The most frustrating thing about this entire thread is that I wanted to have a conversation about implementing actual on the ground solutions to countering conspiracy theories and the response was to shut down the conversation.

            In an attempt to answer my own question, maybe the solution to getting people to escape conspiracy theories is to avoid personal attacks (you’re Machiavelli) and other rhetorical devices and actually have a conversation divorced from ego about a topic.

            If only there was a community for that?

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                That’s a non answer. I never said conspiratorial thinking was helping the world. (However, in the example given it appears that it may have.)

                What I asked was how do we implement your solution. It’s all well and good to point out problems. But if that problem is unavoidable it becomes the cost of doing business. I take your non answer to mean you don’t have one. That’s fine. I don’t either. In the example given a good result was achieved via a less than ideal way.

                While we wait for the way to implement your solution I am willing to accept getting innocent children vaccinated by any means possible.

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                  Honestly, the situation we find ourselves in is because we applied your “solution” for decades while ignoring the long-term consequences of that kind of appeasement of illogical thinking.

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      This seems like a huge gamble if you’re a pharma in the vaccine space. Existing vaccines have great economies of scale and are very reliable revenue when uptake is high and consistent. Introducing skepticism that reduces the number of people getting vaccines (since RFK lacks any nuance) is a great way to shoot yourself in the foot. The new patent vaccine would need to maintain high uptake to recoup the R&D costs.

      You’re also screwing a large group of billionaires to benefit a much smaller group of billionaires. Possible, but likely to make enemies.

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    9 days ago

    You’d think a position like the Secretary of Health and Human Services for the entire nation would require some sort of medical or sociology training, but nope! Not in this timeline.

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    Who goes hiking with an unvaccinated infant? His babble is almost as incoherent as Trump’s.

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    9 days ago

    You know, occasionally I’m led to believe that we live in the 21st century, but then I read a quote like that and I’m reminded, nope, definitely Middle Ages still. I better go hunt some witches now.

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    It’s like a trolley problem. If you do nothing, an RFK shaped train will speed down the tracks and kill untold innocents (and some maga assholes). If you pull the lever to try to stop it, you’ll almost certainly die, and it’s possible another train will be placed on the tracks later anyway.

    So I don’t know what to do. I pray to saint luigi.

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      Ideally, as many people who try to kill that many people are stopped.

      RFK specifically can’t be allowed to fuck with vaccines. That isn’t, like, an industry shifting around. It’s worse than life and death, it’s brutal, chronic illness–preventable horrendous individual suffering on a mass scale.

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        I can also not be a skeptic and do research anyway. I have a fair amount of confidence in scientists but not governments. Nor governments understandings of science. Nor the common persons understanding. Im skeptical on all those fronts. But science. Not so much.

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        Yup, I’m a vaccine skeptic and get every pretty much every one that’s offered, because it turns out they’re totally worth it. But I do my research anyway because I’m not blindly injecting anything.