Lemmy is going to look more appealing as time goes on.
Yes, this is me. It’s a little difficult to find content, but at least the app I chose is Apollo-like
One thing I can recommend is, if you have an issue and find a post on Reddit or need to make a post, bring it over here to the correct instance too, even if your problem was solved on Reddit. Just clarify that.
My thoughts are that will add content that can help users and provide more content to lemmy. Which in turn, could provide a better experience for users as well as open up discussions here.
Welcome new friends! 💜
Reddit admins are Nazis and maga pukes. Inevitably they will push people away from the platform and I’m very much looking forward to that day.
The problem for me was not Lemmy. I still believe in Lemmy, the Prolem was that slrpnk.net really was not user friendly. I’m writting this from phtn.app which someone told me about and it’s awesome! Looks wayyy more like Mastodon and something from today :D
I’ve had no issues with @pawb.social and Voyager
Glad that you found it, enjoy!
I’m using the Sync mobile app. I should try another one just to see what’s out there. Are you aware of any third party apps that can be used on desktop?
The Sync app is great, only thing that bothered me compared to Reddit was that I would see again and again posts I’ve seen in the day when reopening the app later in the day, haven’t tried anyting else yet
Yeah. Is that just due to the small size of the user base, or does reddit hide posts you’ve already seen?
I would love a way of minimizing comments as you read them like on Reddit. It would make avoiding a long string of comments deviating from the topic much easier
I don’t think they hide it, as it’s not in the hidden folder, but it understand to not give you back the same post. Or make it less important, it can happen I see it again a bit later
Sync on phone you can hold a discussion to close it
Sorting by active, post tend to stay on the “front page” for a day or 2. I like sorting by 12 hour top, keeps things fresher wile still getting interesting post.
Great tip! I tried stuff with but not that! I’ll give it a try!
Popular/Unpopular opinion : Lemmy is currently perfectly sized. The amount of altrighters and trolls one may encounter is low enough to make is a healthy network. Depending on the people leaving reddit, it might be a blessing… or a curse.
It’s great for us personally, but corporate social media is a danger to society that ought to be replaced by decentralized alternatives too.
To be honest, it’s also very easy for a big corporation to take over Lemmy if they really try. They have the money to have fast servers and unlimited traffic and all the promotion, grassroots or otherwise. They don’t do it because right now Fediverse is a small collection of opinionated individuals and it’s not worth it trying to control it.
Counterpoint: There still is too little activity within communities that aren’t tech related for me to say that it’s the perfect size. I think we still need a good number of non-tech focused users here. Also, the jokes are stale, but reddit has that issue too.
Yeah this is the real issue. Reddit’s mass of niche communities, easy way to find them, and mod tools like matchday bots for sports and others really make reddit more appealing to a general market. I’ve seen users on Reddit comment on Lemmy and the consensus was “it’s a cool alternative but too small” and I kinda agree.
Another massive hurdle is how entwined Reddit has become with Google searches. 9/10 any technical or research prompt I search has a log of Reddit posts with answers. This is no doubt the product of Reddit owners partnering with Google. I imagine it would be a real challenge for the Fediverse to replicate.
Yeah, this site is basically a news aggregator with a side of tech memes. None of the niche communities we used to interact with exist, and no matter how many times someone says “just make them lol” it’s just too small to support a Memphis Grizzlies or a cat mlem or an alt-biking scene
Lemmy, what is the best way to prevent myself from pooping for three days?
Nah. All the niche communities are practically dead. Weeks go by between posts in most C’s that aren’t free concentrated big ones, most of those vaguely political in nature.
Unpopular/Popular opinion: the federal structure of lemmy makes it easier to stick to your bubble. Altrighters will eventually have their own instances you can easily block or defederate from. So each one’s “observable fediverse” will always be perfectly sized.
Fair
Its the hard Right turn that most subs took that is keeping me away
Lemmy needs to drastically improve the UX before it’ll become big
Just use a 3rd party app and pick the experience you prefer.
Which 3rd party app?
The average user needs to be spoon fed, choosing between 5+ different apps is confusing and takes mental load etc.
Everything just needs to work, with barely any thought put in (defaults for everything)
And once they’re using the platform they can change defaults if they like.
Currently there aren’t defaults, or the defaults suck (Eg lemmy.world web UI)
Believe it or not, a lot of people use it on an actual computer.
I mostly use desktop to browse and have been using the default shitjustworks site, but someone posted phtn.app above and it looks pretty nice. Discuss.online also looks just like old reddit. Looks like phtn.app works with any instance login.
I mostly use desktop to browse and have been using the default shitjustworks site
Discuss.online also looks just like old reddit
So does https://oldsh.itjust.works :)
What would you like to see improved ? This could be great contributions to the codebase :)
I mean, the downsides of the Fediverse have been discussed at length.
Here’s a routine occurence: i’m browsing around, opening new tabs and such; then i go to upvote something, and it tells me i’m not logged in. This is how i find out i’ve accidentally left my instance. It’s cooked at that point, i’m not going to post that comment, if i really wanted to i’d have to carefully replace the relevant parts of the URL. This keeps happening in both Lemmy and Mastodon.
I need to 1. Not fall out of my instance as easily, and 2. if i’ve opened a page outside my instance, i need to be able to open the same page in my instance in one click. Anything else is is annoying to me and a complete deal breaker to most new users.
I don’t doubt that there’s loads of work done in the backend that i don’t see, but from my point of view as a user, Lemmy still has the same problems it had when i joined two years ago. That’s right, it’s been just about two years, the Reddit API debacle was around April-June of 23, and i haven’t seen glaring problems adressed.
Even when I do stay on my instance, I randomly get logged out every few minutes. Only happens on my iPhone, never my computer, but it heavily discourages me from upvoting let alone posting.
Also the fact I have to select the language every time is really annoying. When have I ever posted something not in “English”?
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I see, I really need to get started using the official front-end more to understand UX problems :)
The web UI is pretty bad IMO. We need to get some serious designers on that.
AFAIK you can change the UI style a bit in your profile settings, but yeah, i guess more variants in appearance could help.
Are you aware of old.lemmy.world ?
Hah, that’s dumb, and also cool. I might end up actually using it…
lol, that’s cool! no i wasn’t
I’ve found a good 3rd party web app, Alexandrite.app although that’s just another hurdle to entry like picking an instance. The official web UI should be much better.
Try a.lemmy.world
How many of these alternative UIs are there?
From LW sidebar
https://a.lemmy.world/ - Alexandrite UI
https://photon.lemmy.world/ - Photon UI
https://m.lemmy.world/ - Voyager mobile UI
https://old.lemmy.world/ - A familiar UILoads. I don’t know if there is a list anywhere.
Could probably drag up DNS records or cert records, if it’s not all wildcards
Nice, that’s actually exactly the UI alaxandrite.app gives lemmings.world
Yea there are just way too many hurdles
If someone like Musk were to take control of Reddit, be prepared. Let’s be real, Spez is not even in the same league as Musk in terms of being unpalatable to Redditors so claiming something like “already has been” is … a choice. But for sure, if someone far worse takes over, there will be an exodus. And frankly, the Fediverse is fully unprepared to handle that, so that’ll be fun.
About adding new instances to handle the load:
There’s four possible legal structures that could be behind a messaging service:
- political domain (state, city, …)
- corporate entity (typically for-profit)
- clubs (typically non-profit)
- individual humans
I think it fits the spirit of the Fediverse best to consider the lower two options. A club is a free get-together of humans for some purpose, such as sports club, literature club, you could have a Fediverse club. I highly support this approach, because it is non-profit-oriented, lives off donations, and is rooted by responsible individuals who do something good for the community. Also, individual humans can host smaller instances, but as the instances grow in size, having multiple people behind it to back it up could make things more stable over time.
I feel like spez is swallowing billiard balls to be ready to accomodate musk
Which is why Musk will keep spez to take the blame, just tweaking the site slightly to not allow it to ban links to X anymore.
When Musk took over Twitter I deleted all my Tweets and never even visited the site again, blocked on parental filters and through NextDNS.
I had been there since 2006.
I would definitely do the dame for Reddit if Musk took over, and I have been there since like 2010 and have some million total karma across several accounts (mostly on one).
I actually did quit for about a year when they killed 3rd party apps.
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I probably should. I left for a long while when they killed the APi and only recently went back. But recently I started actively using platforms like this one as part of an effort to remove Resdit from my sphere.
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Just do it now, why wait.
Also, don’t forget the following:
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Open All, sort by new, click through upvote and downvote buttons randomly.
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Sort by hot, open random post, comment something completely wrong and unrelated to the post.
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Go to explore, pick random subreddit, sort by top year or all time. Pick random post from the first dozen and repost it back into the same subreddit. Not cross-post, just copy whatever title/image/text/link there are without changing a thing. Bonus points for doing this on subreddits for current events and hitting a frontpage
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Do NOT delete the account. The account age and karma will shield you from anti spam/bot protections in case you ever decide to do it again.
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I left after they closed off the API and shut down third party apps. I could never go back, whilst Lemmy hasn’t always offered the same amount of content, its always still offered good content, plus I know I’m guilt free of supporting Reddit and what a shit show they’ve become 🙂
I loved Apollo. Now I love Voyager
I got used to Lemmy eventually and like it. I spend less time scrolling which is good. Now just to ditch Instagram…
I deleted my Instagram a couple weeks ago out of anger and spite when the TikTok ban briefly went into effect. I also uninstalled TikTok and kept it uninstalled even after it was unbanned and really only have Lemmy and YouTube (not shorts). It’s been a nice reset for my brain. My deleting Instagram has made a couple friends a bit sad because they liked to send me memes, but we still text so honestly I haven’t missed it at all. All that to say, I highly recommend deleting Instagram.
I was in meme withdraw for a bit adjusting to the slower content. I even touched grass that one time.
Same but with piefed. It’s the same communities. Love the extended capabilities on both platforms. And fedi integration makes it so anyone can use anything.
My friends aren’t on piefed
Be the change.
I know the struggle though I can’t get anyone on Signal beyond my wife and one friend.
Already am. Nobody follows me.
I intentionally sabotaged my account to get banned so that I couldn’t go back. Lol
The thing is that the more people use Lemmy the more content there will be
And there has been. I also joined Lemmy after the API shutdown and even then there were hardly any new posts, and barely any discussion on them. Now it seems that I have a brand new front page at least once a day and there’s plenty of discussion on the posts.
Same, but then I immediately returned to reddit. Today I suddenly realized I wanted to leave reddit, so here I am again. Any good tips for Android apps?
I use Jerboa currently. I was using Relay for reddit and the two aren’t really similar, I just switched to it because I saw it recommended the most when I was leaving reddit during the API fiasco. I haven’t tried any of the other apps because I’m used to this one now and it gets the job done.
Summit is da bomb
I’ve used Connect since I came over a year ago. I used Joey back on Reddit.
interstellar for mbin
Voyager is my go-to.
I see sync recommended too, but I would recommend against that one. I had to buy it for reddit twice because the dev invalidated the license and took away premium features on an upgrade. So I’m not using their shit ever again.
Any good tips for Android apps?
Sync, I used it for reddit before they fucked the API. And now I use it for Lemmy. It’s one of the smoothest apps I’ve ever used.
I really loved sync for reddit, but development on the app is pretty inconsistent and there’s currently some major bugs/unsupported features. For example I can’t currently view comments on posts from SJW.
Hmm I don’t have any issues like that, moved over on the initial sync for Reddit closing
Apparently it’s an issue with newer versions of the Lemmy software. I can see posts from SJW and the number of comments, but if I click through on them I can’t see any of the comments. It’s been reported on the discord but no updates. There’s also other stuff like the fact that sync can’t deal with showing separate upvotes and downvotes, so you have to just show score. Lots of little random glitches from differences between reddit and Lemmy.
The author of sync basically goes completely off the grid for long periods of time (presumably due to irl priorities) and doesn’t work on sync during these periods. It’s always been a thing with sync. But Lemmy changes more frequently than reddit so the bugs can be more frustrating. I’m considering changing apps, honestly, because not being able to see comments on my home instance is driving me crazy. But I do really like sync’s interface.
Yeah the consistent interface has been easy to keep using. I tried a couple others but nothing really felt right. Probably going to be worth checking out new options at some point, just haven’t had enough issues with sync to really try
What is SJW? I love Sync for Lemmy.
sh.itjust.works
Summit is pretty good, and the dev is very responsive in [email protected]
The 2 specific communities I want to read without a mirroring one in the fediverse I still read through RSS.
Yead is better than using web or their app. And still get my fix.
I use Boost for Lemmy (paid for, so no ads etc.). It’s what I used for Reddit, so the transition was super easy, but there’s lots of FOSS Lemmy clients on F-Droid that are good too.
I also use Boost as I was using that back on Reddit. Voyager is also an excellent Lemmy app too.
Yeah that’s when I left, well before when they started talking about it.
It’s not the same which is great
Unpopular opinion: they like it there, and aren’t going to switch no matter what happens. We’ll see.
Well I’m here to stay because fuck reddit
Yeah, ever since Apollo died, I can’t go back.
Having Voyager on Android has been a real life saver.
Same for me, but for Sync. I liked it here immediately but when the dev put out Sync for Lemmy like a month later I was so happy.
They’re far too addicted to the algorithmic brain rot to switch of their free will.
Tbf there is FAR more content there, and also somehow less authoritarianism and echo chamber effect than here - like we have the modlog but they have modmail and the ability for people to continue their already started conversations on posts after removal from the sub, while here (without even a notification sent to the user) we simply have a message like “Rule 1” (which says nothing at all about why a message might have been removed…?).
If we want to attract more users, then like Bluesky, we need to do better at meeting the desires that users actually have, rather than like Mastodon simply complain why nobody wants to come here. PieFed, Mbin, and Sublinks are attempting to do that, so there’s hope, but we are still a long ways away yet.
If we want to attract more users, then like Bluesky, we need to do better at meeting the desires that users actually have, rather than like Mastodon simply complain why nobody wants to come here. PieFed, Mbin, and Sublinks are attempting to do that, so there’s hope, but we are still a long ways away yet.
I disagree.
It is more important to stay true to yourself, than open the gates to the flooding of new content. That is the only way to satisfy existing users and avoid that the platform loses it’s “core” or soul in the long term. It might be unpopular, but if you prefer the PieFed or Mbin approach, you know, you can always just go there? What’s stopping you? Everybody should try to find the platform that’s best for their personal approach to things, i think.
Sublinks
I would just refrain from mentioning Sublinks until there is at least a working instance with a minimal product
There is https://demo.sublinks.org/, but yeah it’s nowhere close to being actually functional unlike PieFed that can almost be a daily driver.
There will, some day, be a mass exodus away from reddit. But it’s not gonna be to lemmy.
I think, maybe we could meaningfully rebrand Lemmy to Feddit? And change the direction accordingly (away from politics/tankie views, and towards general-purpose, meme content)? Maybe that would be a solid and sound approach to social media.
Do you think it will be to Bluesky?
One day it could be to PieFed, or Sublinks, but everyone banned for Rule 1 from ML knows that it won’t be to “Lemmy”.
Bluesky has a lot of momentum and no one cares about mastodon. So I do think bluesky will likely remain a fixture. But I don’t think it’s the thing that replaces reddit. It’s the thing that replaces twitter.
That indeed makes sense. So where then will all those people go?
There will, some day, be a mass exodus away from reddit. But it’s not gonna be to lemmy.
Wherever it is probably doesn’t exist yet. But there will always be a next thing. If there were any viable outlet for average redditors to move to currently, they would’ve done it during the protests. I also think the average person just does not give a shit about federation and getting away from centralized control. They just want to be where people are.
Sigh… ^This indeed. :-D
I don’t know what the next thing after Reddit would be, but if anything fediverse wants to be that thing it needs to be prepared in advance of the next exodus.
That means developers need to work on smoother onboarding, from account creation to in-app guidance to help users find what they’re interested with as little effort as possible. On the backend, we need the ability to handle a huge influx of users. I don’t know shit about either of these things, but it’s what tech startups ALWAYS focus on to build their user base, to my knowledge.
PieFed is working on that, e.g. the Categories of Communities and Topics onboarding someone by a wizard asking what their interests are and then subscribing them to those communities, and also hashtag support helping to discover new content across Topic areas. It’s pretty neat!:-) 😎
Neat!
The online version of Stockholm syndrome?
That, and if you need actual information from Reddit rather than just want to find a place to hang out and chat. The people who need certain content must go to wherever that is.
Even though I haven’t “used” reddit in well over a year, I still put Reddit at the end of some of my searches. It even comes up as a recommendation on Google.
Someone told me to check out the fednews where USA federal workers are discussing so many changes lately with the new administration. Bluesky had like 2-3 posts total, Lemmy had zero, and Reddit was where that entire sub was located.
So yeah, if you want the content, you go to where the people who are discussing it are. Otherwise you have to do without. Which you can’t always do.
Yeah, despite quitting reddit completely, I often find myself putting site:reddit.com at the start of my searches, especially if it’s something niche and opinionated.
That will be when old.reddit is culled. They have been preparing to quell future dissidents for a year now and this decision would be the only one that I can think of which would bring that much outrage
Just a heads up it’s old.reddit.com. Oh and “quell” - sorry.
Shit
I came here a week ago from Reddit! There are dozens of us!
Welcome! I hope you stay.
I left during the whole API thing awhile back. I really like it here. With less people it feels more like a community. People are generally more respectful and when they’re not they get very lonely very fast.
Welcome !
What was your reason?
I can’t innocently talk about Nintendo and Luigi without Reddit mods going nuclear.
This is where they want you. Head down to the dock and he’ll show you to the Census Office.
And don’t steal any expensive platters!
What’d I miss?
Nothing yet but to speculate Steve Huffman’s rolemodel Elon Musk has been whinging about subreddits banning links to Twitter. They might replace some moderators again and covertly reverse the community ban.
Yeah, it kind of feels like we may only be a few days away from Rexxit 2.0 depending on spez’s next move. Musk’s comments have been short on this but given the fact spez is already a fanboy and, as Vice Dictator, Musk’s merest utterances get taken very seriously in certain quarters, I could see the Xitter ban being overturned.
This struck made my Spidey-Senses tingle when I read it the other day:
Reddit drives significant traffic to X, particularly for discussions related to trending topics on the platform, so a ban on X links on Reddit could significantly impact Musk’s company.
Now Musk has favoured ideology over profit but if he can get a bootlicker to improve his bottom line with minimal effort on his part, then he might get spez to harm his own site for Xitter’s gain.
It may not happen, but as a Lemmy Instance Admin, it’s something I’m keeping a weather eye on and making a few plans.
I’m amazed there were still moderators left that were willing to do protest actions after last time.
As we’ve seen from the Trump admins, there’s never a shortage of bootlickers who would polish that boot for the smallest amount of power.
Obligatory: fuck u/spez.
That’d be a crazy move. He must know there is an entire wave of new social media emerging thats just poised to punish such a stupid move.
As if Reddit cares about long term stability at all? The line must go up at all costs.
Oh, and fuck Spez.
I’m only recently arrived here but already the tech stack seems significantly more stable
Than Reddit? Yeah.
I still visit some niche subs with old.reddit.com, but I don’t see how users even stand the new site.
That is exactly what I expect to happen as well
How much are the Reddit owners banning any mention of Lemmy, though?
A lot! They’re clamping down hard on any posts that mention the platform even the moderators sadly.
I kind of always knew believing reddit was some kind of pure platform basically required being a stereotypical Californian but its declined so heavily in the last 10 years.
Its the number of clearly stupid replies you get now that really irritates me, from people who’ve very clearly not read or understood what you’ve said. It used to be a place where the average user seemed to be a PHD looking for cat pictures
I wrote that and now I’m imagining being required to take an exam to join a subreddit. Stupid idea but it would probably restore that sort of tone.
and now I’m imagining being required to take an exam to join a subreddit. Stupid idea but it would probably restore that sort of tone.
I think it’s because some people are naturally calm and considerate, instead of seeking rage-bait.
I think this isn’t learned behavior, or something you can change through education/exams. This is just how some people are. I guess it has something to do with being intellectual/Taoist/gnostic, whatever you call it. I think this is just because a lot of people here are technically inclined, have AuDHD, or something similar.
Apart from that, i guess lots of ragebait, advertisement, and “preferring user numbers over quality content” is why reddit (and many other platforms) are taking this course. Let’s make sure that the Fediverse stays a place that is ad-free, and turn rage-bait to a minimum.
^This… and my ax (am I doing it “right”?) It’s human nature and we’ll do it again here unless we remain vigilant against the trend.
Maybe we need a euphemism… like… uhh… “the shadow platform” or something? No wait… “the 'emmy”? “the lemony place”?
Hmm, “the lemony place” is close, but I’d really prefer “the lemony party”.
Or maybe just “lemon party” to simplify it a bit more.
I’ll go google that just to make sure it’s not taken by something else.
It’s been 2 hours. He ded.
He dared to google The Lemon Party and he paid the price. One must never mention oh wait someone’s at my doorlkwjgf
The enemy of my enemy is on Lemmy
We need to be sure they know its a party going on, so it be:
LemOnParty
The Lenemys! You’re a genius, IninewCrow!
Lemon-stealing whores.
Whenever I see this referenced it makes me think of an old man I worked for named Olan. Olan was an asshole. He was a jerk. He was just a miserable old man with no redeeming qualities.
We did odd jobs for him because he was in a wheelchair and couldn’t do them anymore. One time my brother was cleaning out a disgusting, moldy, vile stench filled chest freezer for him while he screeched at my brother for gagging, and chucking random shit at him for being “a whiny little faggot”
But the thing that makes me remember him when I hear “lemon stealing whore” is this day a friend visited him while we were there, and the friend asked about some guy who used to work for him
Friend: whatever happened to Bill?
Olan: fired him. He stole my battery terminal cleaners*
Friend: he did?
Olan: yeah. Died, too. Stung by some bees.
Friend: that’s a shame
Olan: he’s cleaning in batteries in hell now
*Terminal cleaners, if you don’t know, are at most a 10 dollar item
ppl can just say the non lemmy instances, im making a private one called hardlywork.ing, just reccomend any url that isnt lemmy, I think theres moistcatsweat, any like that. They’ll figure out its lemmy once they’re on it
That’s a great idea. That way they also don’t have to go through the whole problem of “how do I pick the right instance”?
Also lemmy isnt lemmy, its technically just one way into the threadiverse with more coming, piefed and kbin may be fine to mention
PieFed.social, although not quite ready for the masses, and Discuss.Online especially for traffic from the USA.
shadow town sounds nice to me :)
Really? Where? Like, can you give a specific example?
Its been common for lemmy.world to get dleeted there, a comment was recentlly removed from tech after getting traction
What happened this time?
I’m curious, too. I suppose I’m out of the loop!
