• @[email protected]
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    478 hours ago

    I can see criminals easily exploiting this default behavior to stop the car and steal from those inside.

    Where’s a Johnny cab when you need it, it knows how to deal with criminals.

    • ✺roguetrick✺
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      165 hours ago

      I doubt choosing to stick up a vehicle covered in cameras with someone who likely isn’t even carrying cash is anyone’s idea of a good payoff.

      • @[email protected]
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        32 hours ago

        idk i think plenty of people carry expensive stuff on them

        what a thief could actually get for them is another matter but clearly that doesnt stop them from trying

          • @[email protected]
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            153 hours ago

            In civilized countries “self defense” means you might have to punch someone. “You should have an easy way to kill someone on you at all times, and keep it hidden so they don’t know” is not self defense, but clear signs of a dystopia.

            • capital
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              In civilized countries “self defense” means you might have to punch someone.

              My back is fucked and have an 80% rating from the VA. I’m not getting into fist fights anymore.

              If someone gets blown away stealing shit, the world has become a better place, frankly.

              • @[email protected]
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                “Property is more valuable than human lives.”
                A statement from a person in a developed country apparently…

                • capital
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                  “The strong should be allowed to do whatever they want to the weak” A statement from a person in a developed country apparently…

        • capital
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          That was in response to being robbed.

          I think the phrase you’re looking for is “defending yourself”.

          • @[email protected]
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            83 hours ago

            I don’t live in a 3rd world country, so I guess I just don’t understand the concept of needing to arm myself before leaving my house because I’m likely to need a deadly weapon while I go about my business.

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              I don’t live in a 3rd world country

              lol the US has the highest death rate from gun violence - it’s literally the #1 killer of children.

              which is not to assert that adding more firearms will help the situation, but it’s got fuckall to do with living in a first world country or third world country.

              • @[email protected]
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                As an aside: part of the definition of a First World Country includes being a “stable democracy”.

                If a poll was done of American citizens asking them “do you think fraud will play a part in the upcoming election?” I would be shocked if less than 80% said yes. That doesn’t sound like a stable democracy to me.

              • @[email protected]
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                41 hour ago

                In these kinds of discussions you can assume the third world country jab was a reference to the US.

            • capital
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              What country do you live in? I’m curious which one has no theft or violent crime.

              • @[email protected]
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                There’s a difference between “violent crime exists” and “violent crime is so prevalent that regular citizens need to carry around an implement designed to kill people quickly while they go about their daily lives.”

                • capital
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                  I’ve never been in a serious vehicle accident.

                  Still wear my seat belt though.

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                Not OP check out my username for an idea of where I live. Besides a bit of gang on gang action in our capital, violent crimes are extremely rare. It’s maybe once a year that police have to shoot at a person, and even then police officers will assess the situation and if possible not go for center mass.

                Note how I left out theft. That’s because you can’t directly use violence to protect property.

                • capital
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                  Note how I left out theft. That’s because you can’t directly use violence to protect property.

                  I remember hearing this when I lived in the UK for a few years and I was blown away. What are you expected to do if being robbed? Let it happen?

      • @[email protected]
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        I prefer to reduce demand, instead. Everyday people who feel happy and safe don’t feel the need to be violent.

        • @[email protected]
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          103 hours ago

          I once had someone get in my face and say, “Are you man enough to fight me?” I responded with “I’m man enough to find non-violent solutions to my problems.” Why should someone be proud of the problem-resolution method of choice for 3-year-olds?

          • @[email protected]
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            there aren’t always non-violent solutions. i accept that reality. it’s nothing to be proud of, but i would be ashamed if i couldn’t deal with that truth.

            • @[email protected]
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              We both know you’d keep it in your car or even on you up till you tactically ascertained that I didn’t bring one myself. Then you’d hand off to the buddy you know you’d be too scared to roll without. And then I still wouldn’t fight you, cause I’m not a wittle baby with hurt fee fees cause someone thinks I’m lesser for carrying a gun. You are lesser for it. Keep being angy.

  • @[email protected]
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    The fedora tipping is too funny, seeing it from outside the situation, but she certainly was very scared because it’s such a bizarre event.

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    Okay, this really seems more like a case of sexual harassment, rather than harassment of Waymo customers, which was my first suspicion. Had it been the latter as part of a politically motivated action against the company I might have had a lot more sympathy, but this is disgusting…

    • The Liver
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      105 hours ago

      You saw the fedora and thought it was anything but sexual harassment? LMAO

      • Fiona
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        I saw “driverless waymo” in the title.

        Also: Prejudice against people wearing fedoras is still prejudice and thus not really a great thing to have. One of my best friends also likes to wear a hat at times (not sure if it counts as a fedora, I know very little about heads) and is one of the sweetest people I know.

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          I hate the reputation fedoras have because I happen to look damn good in a fedora.

  • @[email protected]
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    The victim’s statement here ends with an oddly volunteered tangent and specific praise of driverless vehicles, before it finally takes an eerie turn in the last sentence…

    "…With that said, I think the Human Factor in this issue is going to be a lot harder to solve than anything else.” …FREEZE CITIZEN!

    I do hope she’s okay, and those two folks seem to be clowns, but this thing also all reads as likely guerilla marketing for Waymo - who the article informs me, in a very capitalism-friendly turn of events, that they now have their service open to the public in 3 cities, cars have a safety feature that checked in with her multiple times and they “rewarded” her with an extra ride. It’s a light enough “crime”, with a very engineered feeling and enough to feel “real” while providing ready fodder for morning radio talk shows, Jimmy Fallon and good morning America talking heads to drone on about this morning across America as time filler that quietly advertises waymo “saving” a person from the scary outside world.

    Note: Also, was very funny that throughout drafting my comment here “waymo” was constantly being autocorrected to “say no” :)

  • Destide
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    Give it a couple of years they’ll legalise running down pedestrians for self drive cars. Can’t have these jackalopes affecting the bottom line

  • FuzzyRedPanda
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    This made me wonder though…the car obviously has cameras on the outside, and there’s also a way to communicate with the support team from inside…so is it a stretch to think that these cars could be auto-recording everything that’s happening inside the car?

    Should we - as riders - have any expectation of privacy in a car with no driver?

    • @[email protected]
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      No, but then the same is true of taxis and Ubers. They all have some kind of recording equipment in them for ensuring safety and cover in case someone claims something.

  • Tanka
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    That’s gotta be the cyberpunkiest thing I’ve read in a while.

    • @[email protected]
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      They should have little nozzles to disperse a cloud of pepper spray around the vehicle in emergencies.

    • @[email protected]
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      18 hours ago

      SAAB tried to corner the US market in the '80s and '90s by giving away a shoulder mounted anti tank rocket with each purchase of a car, but their legal team said “that’s not an appropriate way to deal with road rage.”

    • @[email protected]
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      Maybe that could spark a nice tradition of the one sitting besides the drivers seat calling ‘shotgun’.

      … O wait

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    In an instance like this, our riders have 24/7 access to Rider Support agents who will help them navigate the situation in real time

    Clearly that’s what a human driver would do, but I guess those Rider Support Agents work for free, so why not fire the driver? /s

    • @[email protected]
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      And then when you have an emergency the response is along the lines of:

      “Thank you for requesting to speak with a rider support agent. All agents are currently busy assisting other Waymo customers, but the next available agent will assist you as soon as possible. There are currently 32 other customers in front of you. Thank you for your patience.”

      • @[email protected]
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        True. The instant response that exists now is only because this is a pilot program and they want to prove that it works. Once it’s normalized they will lay off most of the rider support and fuck you if you have to wait on the line.

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    Some guys were annoying/sexist to her while she participated in a public menace and I guess this is supposed to mean something to me beyond “stay away from California”